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Originally Posted by Aptrganga
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That's a big mistake which in my opinion arises from a huge misconception.
By the way, some would even deny that Christianism (in its Trinitarian belief) is a Monotheistic religion. Thus, one might even accuse the Unitarian Christian beliefs (like Arrianism, which was adopted by many of the Eastern Germanic tribes) are a Middle East Monotheistic religion. But the concept of the Trinity alone is innovative and alienates Trinitarian Christianism from any Middle East Monotheistic religion.
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You are trying to reform the belief sytem, in my opinion this belief system as such is the problem, that's the difference.
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I am? How am I trying to
reform the belief system?
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Anyway, this thread originally was obout this forum is an European one - we are too emeshed in theology now...
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Agreed. There should be a split in this thread.
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And still Roman catholicism is labeled "conservative".
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It is undeniably
conservative in some aspects.
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I wanted to propose a compomise since I thought Medevial Catholicism was the major spiritual guidance at that time - having led many great European leaders against those enemies still sieging us.
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True.
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So you seperate between mundane Christianity and Christianity as spiritual guidance? How's that? A Christian who refuses being a member in a church still belives Jesus died to relief him from his sins.
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Is that what you belief it is the spirituality in Christianism?
From what little we have debated so far, I am perfectly sure that you can do much better than that.
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Agreed - but often enough truth is refused by people following an ideology.
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That's a too common mistake.
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Well, but this religion opened the door to such behavior.
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Do you really believe that
such behaviours did not exist in people before Christianity?
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Biased - me? Never In fact being magnanimity and clemency are not terms that immediately come to my mind when it is about Catholic church I must admit. Jesus was magnaminously and benevolent - it did not help him much because it was considered as weakness.
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To be magnanimous first one needs to be stronger than opponent. How can it then be a weakness?
Sorry for this sudden break. Need some sleep and I still have a busy day tomorrow morning and afternoon. I'll try to finish answering tomorrow evening or night.
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