[Zrinski]

I always saw Italy as a conglomeration or federation of various Latinic/Italic states...although of course it is not. I would compare it with Germany....from the point of history of course. Various states now fused in one political entity. Of course not all German states are in it...Austria and Switzerland are outside. By some historical coincedance so could have been the case with Venice as well.

And I would agree with Imota and I stated so few times before...Venice(as in Venetian Republic) was not and is not Italy. Same as Prussia wasn't Germany....though not entirely valid comparison.