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Old Thursday, December 29th, 2005
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Default Re: Pan-Slavism Versus Pan-Germanism

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Originally Posted by Slavni
You mean that Vlachs.Only Vlachs in Serbia lives near Romanian border and speak language close to Romanian.
Today yes. In ages before Vlachs lived all across Balkans...especially in area of southern Serbia, Montenegro and northern Albania. There were pockets of them in Bosnia and Dalmatia as well. Today there are only minor communities in Albania, Macedonia, Croatia and Greece. Aromanian is even recognized as one of official languages in Macedonia(so called "FYROM"). Istro-Romanian(Croatia) is recognized and protected as endangered language.

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Tesla origins are from Old Hercegovina,one of oldest Serbian lands.
Herzegovina is not "serbian land".

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Natko Nodilo "Prvi ljetopisci i davna historiografija dubrovačka" (The First Chroniclers and Early Historiography of Dubrovnik - JAZU, Zagreb, 1883. notebook 65, pages 92-128),is Croatian history book,what Serbian propaganda you are talking about?
I am talking about about twisting the facts and making them appear they say something they do not. The article you posted is blatant seriban propaganda. May I remind you that Duborvnik people never called their language Serbian nor they recognized themselves as Serbs.

Ante Starcevic thought that the original people of Dubrovnik were Latins(group close to Vlachs) who were "croatized"...I share his opinion. The fact is that Dubrovnik people by 15th and 16th century started recognizing themselves as Croats and British historians[?] wrote of Dubrovnik(Ragusa) ships bearing chequered Croatian CoA flags.

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Originally Posted by Banat
Some undoubtedly are. As are in Serbia proper, too. And the situation is the same with Muslims and Croats of those areas, too.
Exactly. The point is that if it wasn't for Serbian Orthodox Church those people would be Croats today.

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But most of them, or even some great numbers - no way. It is exaggerated for political purposes only.
Yes most of them. Nothing is exaggerated...in fact this factual evdence is very much suppressed for some time now.

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I wonder if the strongest argument in this "Vlach" theory was Statuta Valachorum, or there are some other serious indications as well.
Strongest argument no, but strongest factual evidence most definately.

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Yes, but in what amount, it is impossible to determine. He was, of course, of Slavic (Serbian), and of Illyrian origin too. And who can tell, perhaps some other peoples of other ethnicity are found in his genealogy: Croats, Bulgars, Gypsies etc.
His surname is of Vlach origin.

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What matters most is that he was a world class intellectual who was able to tell who and what he was, and he considered himself a Serb of Serbian origin. Quite a few Serbian distinguished persons of 19th and 20th century weren't Serbs by origin, and it is something that is not hidden. But Tesla wasn't one of them.
I never disputed the fact Tesla considered himself Serb. In fact I don't know what he has with this debate in first place...

Last edited by Zrinski; Thursday, December 29th, 2005 at 19:31.
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