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Originally Posted by Reinhold Elstner
In answer to your point about Protestantism being Germanic - the most Jew-friendly brand of Protestantism is Francophone in origin
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Sure, but protestantism did catch in mostly in Germanic countries.
There are many reasons why it is so.
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It may suprise you to learn that is precisely what the Marcionite church did. It rejected the Bible and the Jewish elements. It retained only one Gospel and a few Pauline letters for its canon.
The basis of Catholicism? As I said, a mixture of Hellenism and Judaism.
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But, again, why not just Hellenism... I personally like it infinitely more than Judaistic teachings. But, everything has it's own positive sides.
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Because Catholic beliefs and doctrines are antithetical to what the NWO stands for.
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It does, so does Judaism.
Judaism would be even more anti-NWO, if you look at its teachings only.
Just look at Islam... it's the most extreme anti-NWO religion, but, it is in itself a IWO.
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There is a misunderstanding here. I did not say there were less Jews in Catholic countries, I said that they tended to do better in Protestant countries. Of course you are right to say that increased secularisation tends to negate these factors.
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To some extent - but that power can be minimised in a state where there are limitations on the rights of those who do not subscribe to the majority religion as there were in Catholic countries of old. Btw, I am not recommending any of this, just observing it.
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I'm sorry. I'm pretty pissed off at my government. You know, they give money to build new churches, so, riding on that, the Muslims now want the government to build them a mosque ( a legitimate request, seeing that the government finances building of Christian objects ). So, I'd advocate NO meddling in religious affairs AT ALL.
On the other hand, our government is retarded enough not to pay for restauration of ancient christian buildings here. ( I'm absolutely FOR restoring historically important objects, regardless of religion, but, since christianity was numero uno here, most objects are churches and monasteries ).
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You live in hope, becaue there is an irrational basis for all states, or, rather there is no purely rational basis for any existing state.
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Sure, but I'm for rooting-out irrationality, not adding to it.
How else would you call the extreme anti-reason stance that so many people have taken on today, and which is called
Political Correctness.
The problem is in the fact that religions nurture irrational views, which then easily backfire on them.
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Are you seriously disputing that the Jews are anti-Catholic?
Of course they do. This is why they have 'antisemitism'; a very powerful binding agent for organised Jewry to keep the rank and file in line.
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You answered yourself there
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True, but in Catholic socities, where ordinary people follow their Church's teachings, NWO finds it more difficult to make inroads than in Protestant countries.
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My opinion is that the entire religious system of Europe backfired and caused what we today live in.
As I said earlier, the church nurtured irrational thinking, repression of sexuality etc. not too much common sense at all... just, this lack of common sense was painted with 'religious colors', and now it's painted with PC-ism, NWO-ism etc.
Sexuality in the culture went from hiding into mind-numbing oversaturation.
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For example, the family is the core of the Catholic idea of community, not just the immediate family but the extended family. The family is a bulwark against what the NWO offers, which prefers to atomise communities into a 'society' of individual worker-consumers. Individuals are way more manipulable than members of families, communities etc.
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I don't think so. The institution of family was nothing like that previous to the 18th and 19th century.
The more the church was strong, the less importance family and "family values" had. In fact, what most today perceive as "traditional family" is actually a recent phenomenon which was effectively dicsouraged by the church until the last centuries.