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Default Re: Can Europe Learn the Lessons of Yugoslavia?

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Originally Posted by Awar
Which is quite funny, because everyone was fed with such propaganda.
Serbs were continually told that "all the money from Serbia is going to Croats",
while Macedonians thought their money is going to Slovenia, or Croats who thought that Serbia is being built from Croatian money.
I am sorry, but thats not true. The last communist congres issued a demand that more richer countries(Croatia and Slovenia) give more money into the Yugoslav central budget. This demand was issued because Serbia and the rest of Yugoslavia were stagnating while the mentioned two countries above were prospering and were getting more and more developed. This was the main reason why Croatia and Slovenia opposed to it what led to an open conflict.

Also the reason why Croatia and Slovenia propsered opposed to the rest of Yugoslavia was not in Tito....especially since this all was happening 10 years after his death...

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Originally Posted by Awar
The war wasn't waged on the entire teritory of Croatia.
Overwhelmingly in the parts where Serbs were the majority.

The 'invading army' didn't attack Croatia's economy.
Again this is incorrect and I would dare to say a blatant lie. The "Yugoslav" Army and Serb rebel terrorists bombarded more than 1/2(more around 3/5) of Croatia including one of the most advanced and prosperous industrial regions of Osijek along with regions of Zadar, Dubrovnik, Sisak and many more destroying industry in those regions. The regions of Croatia where Serbs were a majority were the poorest regions in Croatia and had almost no industry, but were strickly agrarian(mostly sheep herding, etc...).
This all brought to crushing of the agrarian branch and most of the other industrial branches. The consequences of this can be easily seen if to this day when Slavonia is now a poorest region in Croatia while before the war and before that was the richest province not only in Croatia but in whole region.

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We too have suffered through corrupt privatization process
where the most profitable industries were first ruined, and then sold
for pennies. This was further magnified by the sanctions:
Thats something totally else...

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Look at what the sanctions did to Iraq. From one of the most advanced countries in the region, to a place where millions died from hunger.
The sanctions did nothing to Iraq. The hunger and starvation were caused by Saddam and his lackey. While his people was hungry he built palaces and villas and God knows what else....

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You're lying and hiding the facts, as I've already proven. End of discussion.
Wow...what an argument...you know until you have actually proven something you cannot claim you proved it.

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Fake is fake, doesn't matter who posts it.
Indeed. Ironic that it comes from you.

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Tito was a Croat, as his father was one.
Doesn't matter to which ideology he ( officially ) belonged to.
Tito was what he thought of himself. He recognized both his Croatian and Slovenian origins, but above all he considered himself to be a Yugoslav. Also emphasizing that Tito was a Croat and that because of this Croats had some use is a blatant and ignorrant lie. The man lived in Serbia, had a Serb wife and most of his staff was Serb, but that all is totally irrelevant since while he was alive and in power to do what is nescesarry no ethnic group wheter it was a Serb, Croat or Slovene was in favour. After his death...well then it started....

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You have a complaints section for that, and a 'report bad post' button.
I should issue you a warning for complaining outside that section.
Of course...I think you both proved how objective you are when it comes to issuing warnings. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't have nothing about warning people and even banning them if it proves when they are clearly violating the rules of the forum, but Vojvoda and occasianlly you are violating the priiliged position you have as a mod and are showing clear disrespect to this forum and to the people who visit it.