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Default Re: Who would be king of Ireland?

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Originally Posted by Amadis de Gaul
How about the Irish royals? i know that ireland wasnt united prior to Henry VIII
When it speaks of Irish royals it can mean chieftains, Tuath Ri, Ui-ri, or Ard-Ri and their families. The potential number of Irish royals are pretty numerous

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i was wondering if before henry was there a push to unite the royal irish families?merge into one kingship?
Not if you mean by intermarriage. But rather the Kingship of Tara was symbolic and gavce it's holder the title of High King. All others were supposed to aknowledge the High King's authority in theory at least, often though the authority was only symbolic rather than practical.


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He goes on and talks about the how some of the royal irish familys surrender their lands.Then he talks about the familys who didnt.Two familys did not surrender 'Donal IX The MacCarthy Mor' and O'Neills of Ulster,Which is family im talking about.
My own family were Ui-ri to the O'Neil's and often the power behind the throne. I believe the chief of the O'Neill clan is currently a Spaniard who is the direct descendent of the Earl of Tyrone who left Ireland during the Flight of the Earls.


As for good webpages, there are so many royal lineages that I can't think of anywhere that would list them all. You will find plenty dealing with specific lineages. For Ulster and O'Neill, here is a good one - http://home.epix.net/~ramcl/ancient.html
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