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Originally Posted by Awar
Indeed, the first agriculturalists were infinitely more 'lazy' than the palaeolithic hunter-gatherers, the modern carpenter is infinitely more 'lazy' than the average judean carpenter from year 01 AD.

But, that's just a product of advanced technology.

The more 'spoled' we are, the less happy we are,
but, out of this lazyness comes the extra time we have for
thinking, contemplating, loving, laughing etc.

Things we say make us 'human'.



Indeed, the Amish are very successful at that.

But, they have an entire system which respects their lifestyle
and helps them preserve it. If they didn't have this support,
they'd become the victim of some group which doesn't uphold the same values.



Don't look at me. I just try to explain.

My goal in this discussion is not to be popular,
I could easily speak what people like to hear regarding religion, which would
make me appear very honourable and all-round great, but, that'd be rather pointless.

Jesus Christ and Galileo Galilei were victims to the same sort of people.

There you go over-complicating again...

I do not see anything wrong with the progress of technology, and to tell the truth the Amish freak me out.

The point is, traditional values, morality, sense, have taken the biggest step back only in very recent times. De-evolution of conscience is the problem...this is what happens when religion and tradition is put on the back burner. It's the very basic principles that are important, not necessarily whether or not you believe in the Buddha or Jesus. Most organized religions have the same basic principles, whether they are simply figments of some clever people's imagination or true divinity is also irrelevant, it is the fact that these basic principles have guided human beings for a long time, and there really is nothing wrong with following them, nor is it really that hard to do. Does it really matter if the guiding force is fear or love? It doesn't as long as in the end people act in a moral, honourable manner.

The problem is that people have taken to personal interpretations of various dogma, in a very human way, and often forget the most basic of principles.

As much death and suffering as religion has caused, I can guarantee you that a world without religion or some sort of basic set of principles, will become an even scarier place.

If we discard the very principles which we are talking about in this thread, the world will become even more of a jungle than it already is.

Be good, it's quite simple.
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