[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Marulus

OK, we all have some things we are individually or collectively proud of. Some people are immensely proud of victories of the national team in football or some other sport. I am personally not, I can say only I am moderately pleased by it, whereas when they lose I am not sad. That is because I deem it a thing of lesser importance (not to say futile), elevated to immense importance by the corporate media.

Pleased? Well, anyone has a right to be pleased, every now and then...

While having R1b (Paleo-European) or anything else leaves me totally indifferent.

I know that pretty well, you keep telling the same things, over and over again. And so do I, btw.

If you personally choose to be proud of that, then OK, it is your individual choice.

Self evidence truth. We call this a lapalissade here.

You just can't stand someone who can take pride in being the heir of a very old lineage of Europeans who have been dwelling this part of Europe for millennium.

Nah, confusing phenotype with genotype again?

I don't think I'm the one who is confused.

You're more likely to find I in Scandinavia and R1b in Spain; Scandinavians and Spaniards don't share the same phenotypes as far as I can tell. The fact that both I and R1b are present (at a low level) both in the Iberian peninsula and in Scandinavia, is not enough to such a conclusion -- that genotypes and phenotype aren't connected.

And for your information, there are haplogroups which are typical for Negroids, others for Mongoloids, Europids...

So yes, I believe there must be a relation between genotype and phenotype.

These "markers" are something (at least for me) entirely abstract.

Amen.

Me too.

Enough said. Give me of that fire water you are hiding under your coat.

Chacun campe sur ses positions. Le "débat" est clos.