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Default Re: Complaint by Vlaams Belang against racist [anti-Irish] hate speech

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Originally Posted by Llywarch Hen View Post
And tell me this, what do you want me to feel about it all? Do you want grovelling and begging for forgiveness? Apologies, and guilt? That would only lead to the death of my nation.
You posit the whole question in terms of some simple opposites, like 1) either you are proud of something, or 2) you indulge in endless orgies in "grovelling and begging for forgiveness". Whereas there is also an option of being neither proud of something, nor feeling endlessly guilty, but just acknowledging that as part of your history.

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This was moved from a thread on a separate matter, so don't interpret the thread title here as my own question!
The thread had gone too much off-topic, so I split it and moved the part of it here.
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