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Originally Posted by Gnist
If I compare that with Sweden's political blocks, I would say that the atlanticist outlook is more common on the right, in a visionary form that is,
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Such a visionary outook of the Atlanticism is very wide-spread in Europe (something like: "we, the West, should stand together or fall") and stems partly from some naive and idealistic view of America and of what it allegedly stands for, and partly from the idea of some gains that could be achieved by such an alliance, or by sticking to such a pattern. They mostly live in clouds and do not see (or do not want to see) the reality of the American policy and ideology. It is an amazing phenomenon.
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Originally Posted by Gnist
whereas the leftists are so completely agreed on the policies leading to atlanticistic and globalistic consequenses that they are even worse.
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Again, not exclusively Swedish phenomenon. The leftists are usually so much into the policy and ideology promoted by America and the Atlantic Alliance, that they do not even need to publicly state their pro-Americanism, it is self-understood. Moreover, they can afford an interior critique of that system they actually support, a critique aiming at its betterment, not at its destruction.
And then you get a paradoxical situation: the rightists often "defend" America and Atlanticism from the criticisms coming from the leftist spectrum, mistaking the leftist internal critique of Atlanticism for some essential, external critique. They end up defending the very international order which pursues virtually the same policy as that espoused by the left, but in a slightly different variety. In a final analysis, those rightists make fools out of themselves.
That is true of the whole inane "left-right" circus in Europe.
(Plague on the house of that person who invented this silly division in the first place, he made an awful mess out of politics!
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Originally Posted by Gnist
Many of them appear to be stupid enough not to see the consequences of their actions, or they are just denying them. They fool their followers this way, since many people still believe that marxism and socialism are decentralising forces in politics.
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Either they are stupid or they are interntionally fooling people, in a manner of the
Grand Inquisitor of Dostoyevsky