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It was totally unaccpetbale way, nevertheless. Some anti-Christian bigots use this as an argument against Christianity in general (a stupid and lame argument, as all of their "arguments" are), but still this fact (ie. that anti-Christians abuse the narrative of this event) does not make the very thing any less reprehensible. Never was Christianity meant to spread in this manner.
This is such a BS anyway "Christians slaughtered my ancestors" - if they did, you wouldn't exist today is my answer to them. It wasn't really about Christianity anyway, more about spreading empire, and since empire was Christian-only, they had to convert them too. It's not really something unique in European/World history (spreading empire/state in such way), not that I'm advocating it, but it's not really that big thing to put a curse on it for next centuries.

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How about God? Because that is what I was alluding to.
Well, who knows...

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However, I acknowledge that decentralised system of governance, with the preservation of local peculiarities, was a good side of that empire. But the last incarnation of the idea of the Holy Roman Empire, I mean the Habsburg Monarchy/Austria-Hungary, was definitely very unholy.
Here we do agree.

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Those whom I met were not denying the Slovenian character of Carantania, I was saying that they did not show any attitude of special appreciation toward the Holy Roman Empire. They also tended to believe that Carantania was oppressed by the Germanic Holy Roman Empire.
Then they don't believe Carantania was Slovenians, only a part of Carantanian history (early Carantania, Samo Union and principality of Carantania), this is also considered as 'fact' by Slovenian official 'history'. The story continues with Slovenia being under 'Germanic rule' for next 1000 years, but it's of course BS spread by German(ic) imperialists and pan-Slavists (who adopted those views, particularly pro-Yugoslav, to portray southern Slavs as some kind of saviours from 1000 year old Germanic opression).
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