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Originally Posted by Lutiferre
The difference between a European state and a European nation is large, but I dont advocate either idea.
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There is no difference if you think about it. When someone speaks of Europe in terms of "nation", he is confusing nation with "state". It is much the same as Americans calling America "a nation". When they are referring to a state.
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Originally Posted by Savorgnan
I should have been more precise. Of course, Pan-Europeanists reject regional identities (I don't), they hate any kind of division or difference anyway, but the "atomized" Europe that I was talking about would be the result of the destruction of the Nation-States.
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Actually, there are pan-europeanists who base their idea of a Pan-Europa in the micro-nationalities, since the promotion of micro-nationalism erodes the bigger nations and this makes pan-europeanism a necessity.
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