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Originally Posted by LoKi
I am not a commie. I'm just a nostalgic nationalist social democrat. But, i tend to agree with Marulus, the diagnosis current state of affairs is correct.
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I know the source where you got that article from. So no, I didn't think that you were a communist. The joke is that I consider pan-europeanism an internationalism in essence.
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Originally Posted by Lutiferre
To this, my opinion is directly opposed. I think the so-called micro-regional nationalism (or simply identity) is important if any kind of nationalism is to succeed. Perhaps it is what we could call the local nation, something that in many cases can be of as high importance as the unitary nation, all though both have their place - but the European entity the nations are part of also has a place. The mistake is to call Europe a nation, and to assume that the actual nations of Europe are dissolved already, into this greater mass which is simply "European" - something I have seldom heard from non-Americans.
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Your micro-nationalism is no different in my opinion. Yet another means to destroy identity and sovereignty in favour of a European... alright, you don't call it 'nation' but it would be 'state'. Where is the big difference?
Your 'micro-identities' are often part of bigger identities, which are the nations.
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et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.'
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