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Default Re: Macedonians Won’t Give Up Name for NATO

Okay, Hegumen, all your neighbours say: "there are some historical inaccuracies in your national myth".
So tell me, isn't it possible really having some inaccuracies?

As an example, I have had some doubts in the past: "May be we are wrong, may be they are really Macedonians. May be, my grandfather lied me claiming that he is Bulgarian from Macedonia and the population there was Bulgarian".

I've searched a lot of non-Bulgarian and not-Yugo info about that problem.
And finally my conclusion is: Macedonian nation descends from the Bulgarian.

I even read an Albanian book (one of them can write...there's an advance so)
It was the most disguisting, satanising Slavs, book I have read. But still take a look what it says about the early Tito times:
The albanians in Kosovo were driven to declare themselves as Shiptars, something different from the Albanians. But the pressure can not be compared to what have been the Bulgarians in Eastern Macedonia through,in order to declare themselves as Macedonians.

So let's summarise what do the others think:

Serbs: We leave the idea of South Serbia. It's predominately Bulgarian area, but still there are some historical Serbian lands somewhere around.

Greeks: We do not give a f*ck what that is. But definately, it's not the ancient Macedonia.

albanians: We do not differ these Slavic tribes. It was Bulgarian 50 years ago. It's Macedonian now. But it will be ours in 20 years.

Croats: Of course we support Macedonia. We support everything non-Serbian. Eh, there's something irregular there, but we're not worried, on the Balkans everything is irregular.

Bulgarians: There's no such thing like a Macedonian nation. My grandma/grandpa/cousin/uncle is from Macedonia. They are all Bulgarians.

USA: Macedonia? Ummmm? Ammmm? I think it's an important factor for the peace in Western Africa

And my personal opinion: Of course there is Macedonian nation right now.
It's neither Bulgarian, nor Serbian. But the mythology which is it based on is absolutely ridiculous.

What I say is: Since the forming of the Balkan nations (about 1800) till 1944, Macedonians were a part of the Bulgarian nation

In medieval times Macedonia was contested between Greeks and Bulgarians.
Ohrid was a Bulgarian capital. Samuil was a Bulgarian tsar. Basil II was the Bulgarian slayer.

The ancient Macedonians and Thracians were hellenized far before the Slavic invasion. May be some of them remained in what nowadays is Bulgaria and Macedonia, but they were culturally and lingually asimilated.

The DNA markers do not show significant differences between Serbia, Bulgaria and Macedonia. But even if they did I don't think they could be criteria about forming a nation (take Italy or Germany as an example).

But just like a friend of mine said: "You can not convince a Macedonian that he is Bulgarian. And do you know why - they are froward like Bulgarians"
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