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Originally Posted by stribbor
NATO is still the only force which can stop conflicts in the Balkans. And Albanians are still the biggest problem of them. If we try to see how many conflicts can emerge today in Balkans, I would tell about eight:
1. Greece and Turkey in the Aegean about islands and borders
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This one is a really serious conflict.
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2. Bulgaria and Turkey regarding discrimination of 800.000 Turks in Bulgaria and 120.000 Turkish refugees which fled to Turkey during communist regime
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Lol. This isn't even a dispute. Turks are not discriminated and Turks have participated in every single Bulgarian government since communism fell in 1989. Not only that but every Turk who fled to Bulgaria during communism has had the right to return (about 50% have returned). Not only that but the discrimination fo Turks is gorssly exagerrated and if it is institutionalized then Turks are helping propagate it especially since Turks are over represented in Bulgarian government.
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3. Romania and Moldavia have problems regarding will of ethnic Romanians in Moldavia to merge with Romania, but they are facing secession in Transnistria
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Lol. And there is no indication there would be a war between Moldova and Romania. There also is no indication of war between Moldova and seperatist Transnistria. Lastly, there is also no indication that the Moldovans (i.e. Romanains in Moldova) have any strong desire to join Romania.
Lol. NATO is the source of troubles in Kosovo. It used false pretenses to attack Kosovo and everything it has done in Kosovo is in violation of international law.
Lol. there want be a conflict over RS, especially since the largest Serb party (the SNSD) has said that they would only make moves toward independence if Muslims and the Croat sell-outs in the SDP try to abolish RS or if Bosnia recognizes Kosovo.
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6. Disputes between Croatia and Slovenia
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Your kidding. This is by far the stuppidest thing you've mentioned. Their is no indication of any possible war over this issue. At most the only things that will happen is fishing disputes between Croat police and Slovenian fishers entering Croatian waters.
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7. Macedonian problem with Bulgaria and Greece
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This is stupid. Why would Greece invade FYROM, especially since Greece already has a good diplomatic strategy to deal with them.
Same thing with Bulgaria. There is no indication that Bulgaria would invade FYROM. No indication ever existed in the 90s.
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8. Macedonian internal problem with Albanians
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Ok. This is another potentioally serious conflict. And one which is made worst by NATO. During the 2001 conflict NATO actively armed Albanians and undermined the military and government in FYROM.
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9. Greek minority in Albania and Albanian minority in Greece (Epirus)
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The Greek minority is unlikely to start a war with Albania. If they were then they're about 20 years late.
The Albanian minority is non-existant in Greece. They are nothing more then histroically revisionist gastarbeiters who Greece has shown to be willing to extradite in the past. And there is nothing to indicate that Greece won't extradite them if they start forming paramilitary groups.
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I can't imagine peaceful Balkan without NATO.
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Yet almost everyone of the conflicts you've mentioned only become worst once NATO get's involved.
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What I can imagine is power sharing in Kosovo between Albanians and Serbs.
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Never going to happen. Albanians had no interest in power sharing during Tito's rule. They have no interest now. And why should they power share when demographics are on their side, NATO let's them do what ever they want and they number 90% of the population or so.
And why would Serbs want to share power with criminals like Thaci. You might as well be asking Bosniaks to share power with Serbian paramilitaries.
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And who ever says they can't be independent is wrong. In Yugoslav Constitution in 1974 Kosovo and Vojvodina were granted status as Autonomous Province but they had a exactly same vote in federation matters which was in favor of biggest republic. So, they had all prerequisites for independence but their status was abolished by Milosevic.
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So many thing wrong with your analogy:
- As an Autonomous Province they were specifically mentioned as being part of Serbia. The constitution only granted the right to independence to nations and rpeublics. Vojvodina and Kosovo were not nations or rpeublics.
- The voting arrangement was not in the favour of the biggest Republic, Serbia. Because both would regularly vote against Serbian interests and would also veto internal Serbian matters.
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And his tactics brought to this what we have today. But, I agree, it couldn't be done without NATO. But, without NATO we would have bloodshed still going on.
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Without NATO, the problem of Albanians in Kosovo and FYROM would have been solved in the early 2000's. NATO tactics led to thje situation today where international law has no relevance today where NATO disrtegarded international law to bomb Serbia and to give it independence. NATO is the ones who allowed the Albanian paramilitaries to spread into southern Serbia and FYROM, NATO are the ones who heklped the Albanians expell over 250,000+ non-Albanians.
All Milosevic did in Kosovo was fight a paramilitary grtoups that the U.S. it's self classified as terrorists. Milosevic's tactics lead to what, a tmost 4,000 dead. While NATO lied of deaths over 100,000. The truth is that military actions in Kosovo had everything to do with securing a U.S. base to secure the AMBO pipeline.