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Originally Posted by Mynydd
Of course the trick of the question is to wonder about Austria alone, and not Bavaria.
Perhaps it is also worth mentioning here that the Austrian Chancelor Dolfuß was assassinated by Austrian members of the Nazi party, after a previous attempt to assassinate him also by Nazi party members, which is seen as a prelude to the Anschluss.
But to be perfectly fair, I think that there are sufficient elements to consider Austria a part of Germany if we base German unity upon the idea of the union of German states. Howver, the one big question against it, in my opinion, comes from the Nazi camp when these try to define Germany in terms of race, around the Nordic Germanic element. There, the myth that is said to build the nation in fact opens a breech in the German identity, an element of distruction through disengagement.
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Indeed, saying Bavarians were Germans, and Austrians not simply does not make sense.
I am well aware of the NS racial policy; Nordicism and such, but I think it's influence was not as big as we think today. Mixing up and falsifying facts with romantic and non-scientific views did not serve Anthropology a good service. There were even jokes about that in WW2 times, like the standard German has to be as blonde as Goebbels, as slim as Göring and as tall as Hitler...
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Originally Posted by Lutiferre
I dont know. Danes certainly dont have any feeling of kinship towards northern Germans.
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Neither do Germans feel akin with Danes - still many Danes thing Slesvig was theirs and Germans there would be happy to belong to Denmark.
In general I noticed Danes do not feel akin with anyone except themselves
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Originally Posted by Lutiferre
But that can also be down to other factors (e.g. post-war). But I definitely agree that Germany is heterogeneous in many ways. A southern/northern division would make more sense in terms of nation, than the one between Austria and the rest of Germany. Perhaps I would be more supportive of independence in a such case, than in the case of Austria.
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How does this north-south division of Germany look like in your opinion?
It is no secret southern Germany had a significant Celtic population and was under Roman rule for a while.
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Originally Posted by Lutiferre
When it comes to Eastern Germany (Prussian region), I dont know much about that in specific, but my feeling would be they are more like the Northern Germans than anything else. (...)
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What is Prussia? Nothing since it exists no more - since 1947.
There is not one single Prussian ethnicity, Prussia had many German and Slavic ethnicities within her borders, since Prussia invaded many German territories such as Slesvig, Holstein, Hanover, parts of Saxony, Hesse etc.pp.
We south-Germans name people from Berlin, Brandenburg (former Prussia) Piefkes, the Austrians call all Germens except themselves Piefkes. We retaliate with "Schluchtenscheißer" (valley-shitters).
Piefkes composed marches like "Königgrätzer Marsch" and "Preußens Gloria" to celebrate the Prussian/northern German victory over Austria/southern Germany in 1866.
http://forum.stirpes.net/classics/13...rsche-mp3.html