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Old Tuesday, March 11th, 2008
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Red face Re: Basque Separatism

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Yes I am, and I can hardly be a victim of what you mention next, since I have no idea what it is, and since I havent decided whether to support this Basque movement. This is just discussion for me, not advocacy of anything.
Have you ever read an article from british, german or US newspapers about ETA and "basque secessionists"? Have you ever watched an ARTE (<strike>mock</strike>)documentary about this topic? Have you ever seen an ikurriña?

¿Yes?

You are a victim.

Just one more thing: it is ridiculously absurd to say it doesn't matter if all the foundations (historical, cultural, aesthetic) of basque separatism are tendentious manipulations, lies and alibies. It is the emotional believing in these tales what makes some young basques to hate their own parents and to start to kill innocents.

Do you know that Ignacio de Juana Chaos, probably the most bloodthirsty terrorist of ETA, is the son of a falangista volunteer who fought in the Spanish Civil War with the nacionales and himself ultra of Fuerza Nueva until his "change over"?

Do you know that Xabier Arzallus, president of the PNV over decades and probably the most powerful and influential spaniards-hater in contemporary history, is the son of a requeté carlista who fought in the Spanish Civil War as a volunteer? He was so passionate that abandoned wife and children and went to war with 45 years. He was also an enthusiast francoist, just like his son Xabier, who was also francoist before his contact with secessionist propaganda.

But in your educated opinion it doesn't matter.
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