[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by Marulus

OK, if you want to say that is could be used as one among many weapons in the propaganda warfare. But it should never be absolutized.

We agree on that. But if you want to know how I think, I elaborate in closer detail in replying to Heimdallr here, and I think he makes a good point with the evidence part. There is a line of logic in it.

Originally Posted by Heimdallr

I couldn't agree more... In America, where citizens enjoy the constitutionally protected right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", I wonder, does this guarantee NOT extend to the prohibition of the importation of those who historically have demonstrated a pronounced and natural or habitual inclination or tendency toward criminal and other uncivilized behaviors ??? ... Does the citizenry NOT have the right to be protected from governmental policies that will SURELY result in an increase in CRIME against their property, women and children???

Yes, and authorities and governments who do not realize these things are not only incompetent. Just like you say, they commit a crime against the nation by releasing these horrors on us.

Considering the burden of intolerable violent crime on civilized society in America, you can bet the citizenry would be marching in the streets opposed to such if it were not deemed politically incorrect by the main stream media to do so... WHOSE best interests does this 'mentality' of political correctness serve ??? ... Is it not the secular humanists whose sowing of discord and lawlessness advances their OWN agenda and 'vision' of THEIR 'New World Order' ???

Indeed. Most people are not even aware that the case against immigration can easily be made on objective criteria. The other side will cling to whatever arguments they think they have, and that's why I made the comparison with guerilla warfare. When you are dealing with completely irrational people, or simple and evil thugs, some objectivity can actually come in handy to prove them wrong.

Apparently all of this is in accordance with UN agreements by member nations to help resettle 'refugees' by granting them 'asylum'... Other predominantly white nations nations like Norway, New Zealand and Australia are following suit, but in much smaller numbers...

Sometimes the UN does even represent a MORE reasonable approach. For example, they have said that refugees should be accomodated in countries nearby their ethnic home, in a similar culture. But what is going on across the whole world now usually has little to do with refugees. It is mostly labour immigration, or intended to be, even if it may be a failure also as such. I've seen different figures from different sources, but they say that refugees constitute as little as 1-3% of accepted immigrants to Sweden.

Just what civilized, law-abiding European societies NEED... MORE Africans, and the CRIME that will SURELY follow !

It may sound crude and "racist", but it's not racism, it's the truth, and as usual, the real tyrants are those who deny these horrors. Statistics also matter on these issues for very apparent reasons, namely that mass immigration brings problems in numbers that are actually objective and truly devastating.