[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Susano

Because simpicity leads to rigidity. It is rather easy to see - if you have simple rules (do not do that, do this), then they will not adapt to every circumstance. Which leads, as said, to rigidity and in a way to suupression. People simple are different, and if that is not supressed, it leads to a complicated society. And honestly, just saying "I do not want a complicated society" is not reason enough to opress anything or anybody!

The all too complex society of today is founded upon such a heap of lies and hypocrisy, that it is almost unbearable for anyone cherishing truth. And it is precisely it that leads to rigidity. Because it is founded upon the inviolability of law and a paragraph written in some law-book is the most rigid thing imaginable. It is more merciless than the most merciless tyrant, because any tyrant, no matter how inhumane he may be, is a human being and there exists a possibility that you can negotiate and come to terms with him, persuade him or at least beg him for mercy, whilst a paragraph is there, cold, unmovable.

Originally Posted by Susano

Yet if it are easy laws, it leads to inequalities, because the laws do not cover every possible aspect.

Are there laws that cover every possible aspect? There aren't and there will never be. It has been one of the modern superstious utopian beliefs that laws, coupled with an efficient bureaucracy to implement them, will solve all problems, all grievances. Well, they won't. No matter how perfect a law is, it can never predict all possible situations that may arise.

There is one more thing deeply troubling about it: the law has become the supreme god of the modern middle-class petit bourgeois class. There is a tendency to be noted that many poeple started to identify good and evil with the legal and the illegal. If a law prescribes something then it must be good and vice versa. I hear people talking in such manner and it is a sign of a true spiritual decay.

Needless to say that it can lead to a worst possible totalitarianism.

Originally Posted by Susano

I do believe in individualism, liberty and equality, and that leads as a side effect to a complex society.

There is no equality in modern society, only the mindless egalitarianism, which makes the worst and the most vulgar ones (those that in more traditional communities were relegated to margins) to come to positions of power and influence. They are in turn manipulated by clever (but rotten) elites. The equality is not even possible, except the basic metaphysical equality of all of us as human beings.

As for individualism and liberty, it boils down only to unimportant things, as that in the "complex society" of today you can, for example, choose whether to dye your hair red or blue or not dye it at all, or whether you will go to vacations to Italy or Mauritius, etc, but you have no say in important matters, you may never question the basic premises of the system. As Susi said, your voice isn't going to be heard at all. So the current society is in this sense the most unfree ever in the human history.

Originally Posted by Beornulf

Simplicity leads to order. Bureaucracy leads to confusion, deceit and eventual degeneration. People lose the ability to take initiative because whilst being reliant on being thought for they are also confused on what their rights are all together.

Making eternal helpless children out of people is one of the goals of the beaurocratized society.

Originally Posted by Beornulf

Adding complexity to anything does not make it better, which is simply an illusion the world has fooled itself into believing. Rigidity in your sense is made to be some tyrannical injustice, when really all it represents is Order and the way things truly should be and have been for years.

The "complexity" we are talking about here is truly evil.