[Menydh]

I don't know where you get the idea that the Gauls were a barbarian people, in the time period that we are speaking. Obviously you are missing nearly 500 years of civilizational progress among the Gauls, which had been preceded by other 500 years of formation towards Romanitas.

Those Gauls, Hispanians or Britannians were in fact Gallo-Romans, Hispano-Romans or Britano-Romans. The ruling elites were the provincial senatorial aristocracies. Not foreigners. Rome, at the top, was not built upon democratic principles of blood from top to bottom, but upon aristocratic principles of elites upon the substrata of the local Gentilitas societies, which were the ones based on blood lineages. It is One Thousand years of evolution leading to the formation of Europa that you are missing.

Seneca was not an Italo-Roman. He was a Hispano-Roman. And so were Hadrian, Trajan, and others. And the same with Gallo-Romans or Britano-Romans.

For the Barbarian peoples, Rome was an ideal destination to reach. Their paradise on earth. The Goths first and latter the Franks aimed to be a part of it. The Goths failed at sustaining a Western Roman Empire, and the Franks maintained one which was a pale shadow of it, and that only after they assimilated and submitted to this very same concept of Romanitas.

And even later, the Goths in Spain only managed to stabilize the territory starting at Leuwegild's reign, with Rekhared's abjuring of the Arian heressy. It was only then that a Hispano-Roman aristocrat commands an "Hispano-Gothic" army to inflict the most serious defeat upon a Frankish ("Gallo-Frankish"?) army much superior in numbers. A great turnback since the defeat of the Goths at Voillé at the hands of the Franks, which was achieved under the military leadership of a non-Goth. And it was only then that the Gothic kingdom of Spania gives figures of intellectual excellence such as Isidore and Leander of Seville, of a Hispano-Roman father and a Gothic father.

The Hispano-Romans, like the other nations of the Western Empire, did not care for a concept of a monarchy as they were accustomed to a combined rule of imperial civil servants and local aristocracy. With the arrival of the Goths, this local Hispano-Roman aristocracy remained next to a Gothic military nobility which had come to substitute the imperial administration.

The Hispano-Roman aristocracy was not keen with this settlement, but with a few exceptions it was accepted as the best that Rome could send at that moment. The mixed marriages issues which Nordocentrists have surprisingly presented as a Gothic law denoting supremacy, that prevented them from mixing with "inferiors", was in fact a Roman law established by Valentinian and Valens and derived from Constantine's laws that prohibited mixed marriages of different social strata.

Such laws, however, were of practically null effect among the Hispano-Roman and the Visigothic common people. And at the time of Leuwegild they had more of a religious character, than racial proper. Although both races were still deeply divided by religion. The derogation of this law by Leuwegild was a first step towards the racial unification of Spania, although this was only effectively realized under the reign of his son, Rekhared, after he officially abjurated of the Arian heressy together with a number of Arian Visigothic bishops.

It is from this moment on that we refer to the Spanish as Hispano-Goths. And it is then that we can speak of a final phase in the ethnogenesis of Spania, or Spain, with the Gothic being an adstratum to the matter, the substratum of Hispania. And that is the heritage of Spaniards alone.

The case of France presents different patterns, which I'm not going to deal with since I don't know enough about it. But for one fundamental difference, unlike the Goths who were initially adept to an oriental heressy of Christianism, the Franks assumed the Catholic dogma at an early stage. And it is that homogeneity which allowed them to rule a reduced version of the imperial ideal of Romanitas.

Contrary to that, Menéndez y Pelayo in his opus magnum, Historia de los Heterodoxos Españoles, argues that the loss of Spain (the 711 AD Islamic invasion) was caused by the insincerity of a large sector of the Gothic nobility in their pretended assimilation of this Romanitas, which had preserved their barbaric temperamental character.

Well, for best or for worst it is, again, our heritage alone. We are not only the children of a father and a mother. Our lineages started long ago and they are long. Be them Celts and Iberians, Hispano-Romans, or Goths. And that is why I said that there is no need to emply any self-styled version of political correctness to avoid offending the modern populations of northern Europe. Because this has nothing to do with you, but with us.