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Originally Posted by Marulus

You are speaking about the First World War, right?

Little after WWI actualy.

Originally Posted by Agrippa

a) Austrians dont hate everyone obviously, whether they prefer certain people over others is another matter, but its a quite natural attitude.

b) There are prejudices and stereotypes everywhere, some are quite present in Austria indeed, but again I consider it, in limits, a healthy and natural attitude.

I didn't say hate, I said that they don't like people who're not from Austria. I was speaking about majority of population so of course there are exceptions.

Speaking as someone who had much contact with them, I can say, in my personal opinion, that Austria is the state I would, as a tourist (means staying for little more time) least likely visit in whole Europe. It's because of people, which lack hospitality (or what's the term - they don't welcome tourists) are selfish and have superiority complex. And that's not only in their country, they're the same when they travel around, I experienced that many times in Crotia for example which is full of Austrian tourists, or at least it was, when I was going there for holidays.

It's my own opinion, based on what I experienced, it's not to be taken as an absolute truth of course. I also want to point out I don't have a problem with what they do in their country as long as it doesn't concern my nation, I only said what I had to say about them because Ferran said that they are potential example for other European nations.

c) Austrians, though being brainwashed about their ethnic and historical status in the context of the German nation and Holy Roman Empire, are most likely not as brainwashed and anti-european (speaking about truly European values) as many others are, even though there are peculiarities, like those mentioned and a few others.

Well yes, but they have also been brainwashed about how their nation played some important role in history and that they're not, but the truth is they don't really have much to be proud about. Or maybe if someone of them is actualy proud of Austrian empire run by some degenerates who stole money from other nations living in this multi-ethnic state. It's now laughable but back than it was a nightmare.

Also, they can won the award for having the most boring national TV channel in Europe.

d) There is no particular hate against Hungarians in general, whether the story of your Hungarian acquaintance is true or not, its in no way representative.

It's not hate is more about not liking them because they're not from Austria. And yes, it's not particularly about Hungarians, they don't really like anyone, as I said before.

e) Carinthia was a predominantely German region for quite some time, there were other predominantely German areas in todays Slovenia, which means Slovenia has a "very fair share" of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire and can be lucky that most of its people are in the borders of its state and that there are not the same problems as there are for Croatians, Serbians and Albanians with unclear borders.

Unfortunately that's not true. We have unclear borders with practicaly every neighbour we have and have ethnic minorities in all of those countries except Croatia. Not that I'm making much of an issue about this here or in other threads since we have enough problems of our own in Republic Slovenia, but since Heider was mentioned, I can't really not mention the way he acts towards the Slovenian minority in his country. It's for other people here who do not know much about this.

Carinthia never was a predominantely German region, however it is now predominantly Germanized. More or less the same could be said for other parts of Austria as well - Germanized Slavs (Slovenians, Czechs, Slovaks)...

As for Germans living in Slovenia, they settled here in middle ages, those were different times and Germans were not considered as enemies here, but rather as fellow Catholic Europeans and part of same Empire (in which Slovenian Carantania had it's role as well), looking back in history, it wasn't our falt we were no longer friends. You came, you lived here, you made troubles, you had to go. Doesn't seem unfair to me. What is unfair, however, is what happened in Carinthia to Slovenian population.

What would be fair is that Carinthia (only parts which are still inhabitated with ethnic Slovenians) are given to Slovenia, the rest of Austria to Germany.

Originally Posted by Savorgnan

Sounds like Carinthia is the less autodestructive region of the less autodestructive nation of Europe.

For years I suspected Haider to be a sort of "false rightish" liberal, but the man seems to be somewhat sincere, after all.

He's a politician who wants votes. He'll need you today and stab a knife in your back tomorrow.