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Default Re: What is Macedonia and who are Macedonians? [split: Hypothetical Flags for Balkan Natio

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But who says that the population of Macedon did not migrate? Do you know which territory will be called Macedonia from VI to XVI century? A territory which is 300 (I dont know the exact distance) away from Macedon.A territory which is situated between nowadays Odrin(Edirne) and Istanbul.
Different regions have been called "Macedonia" during different historical periods. Ancient Macedonia does not exactly correspond to the territory of Roman Macedonia or even the Republic of Macedonia. This does not necessarily mean the basic population migrated...

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A famous emperor of Byzantine Empire from that region is Basil II the Bulgar-Slayer, who is from the Macedonian dynasty and was born near Odrin(Edirne).So,as you can see, the ancient macedonians have nothing to do with the modern ones.


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So it's clear that the etnic groups which constitute the macedonian "nation" are exactly the same as the bulgarian.
I don't know about that... did the Sagudats settle in what is now Bulgaria?

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For our bothers "macedonians" I will recommned to read the book of Bojidar Dimitrov,the director of the National Museum of History in Bulgaria, called "The 10 lies of the macedonism", which is free online and is written in "macedonian" language.
Dimitrov is hardly a credible historian. Some of what he writes is as ridiculous as Donski.

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So is it right to divide Bulgaria in 6-7 or even more different countries? And what about Europe in some hundred states? Everybody knows how many different german and italian countries there ware in the previous centuries...
Macedonians are not part of a "divided" Bulgarian nation. They have a fully developed national identity and the only ones claiming to be such [Bulgarians] are those looking for Bulgarian passports... and we all know what that means.
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