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Default Re: Hypothetical Flags for Balkan Nations

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Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda View Post
I still hold the view that Slavic presence in Greece is grossly exagerrated.
Suit yourself.

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Furthermore, those maps are not contigous with ancient Macedon.
Of course they aren't. They represent the expansion of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. And that means that ancient Macedonians(whether they were Greeks or not) had to come in the new areas of expansion physically. And that would mean that they had surely left their genetic heritage in the latter lands. They were only humans, after all.
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Very little of FYROM is part of the territory of ancient Macedon.
Perhaps, but wikipedia map is just a lame excuse for a source.
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The FYROMians have no connection to ancient Macedon.
This is just untrue. You don't have to be genius to figure out that Aegean Macedonia and Vardar Macedonia are the first neighbors, so they have to share genetic heritage to some degree. For example, their men share the frequency of 50% or higher, of the same genetic markers. Every nation shares some blood with its closest neighbor, and you can literally spit form one Macedonia to another. You do the math.
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They are not a mixture of Slavs and ancient Greeks.
Of course they aren't, they are a mix of much more "components", like most people from the Balkans. Most people think that the ancient Greeks were "pure-blooded" people, and I think that is crap. Even in the ancient times, the Balkans was, ethnically speaking, very heterogeneous place. So there were ancient Pelasgians, Illyrians, Paeonians, Thracians etc., and they influenced Greek gene pool, and vice versa. Even the Alexander the Great was half Illyrian. And it is just plainly stupid to think that there was no mixing.
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The slavs in what is now Greek Macedonia never were FYROMians, they were Bulgarians and most fled after WWI.
Define the Macedonians(Slavs) and define the Bulgarians.
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Furthermore. FYROM is a relatively new nation -- created post-1945 in a region where the people did not have an ethnic/national affiliation and where the people only referred to them selves as Slavs.
That's probably because they are Slavs? And they just named themselves after the region they live in.
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