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Originally Posted by Errigal
I would say Europe is the cultural area of the Roman Empire which was maintained and expanded on by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. The regions permanently lost to Islam (the Maghreb, Egypt, Mesopotamia, Asia Minor) obviously are no longer part of Europe.
I have never been to the Caucasus but I would say the Georgians are European while the Armenians are not. The Armenians seem too Oriental to me.
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Too me both Armenia and Georgia seem to be oriental. Despite that i don't care if they're European or not. But if one had to choose criteria on determing this I'd say use this criteria: which state is more desperate to present it's self as being "European" and as part of this desperation is in the long-term thinking of joining such anti-European organizations as the EU & NATO. Or better yet, which one of them has good relations with Turkey & Turkic states? (the answer for both is Georgia, given my views on Turkey & Turkics, and on the EU & NATO, I would say Georgia is more un-European).