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Default Re: Definition of Europe

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Who are Hyperboreans?
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What would then be the natural habitat of the Hyperboreans, whatever that terms means?
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Interesting observations, although they don't convince me in their entirety. In this case Hyperborean seems to be synonymous with Aryan/Indo-European?
I thought you said you like to read traditionalists thinkers?

Not quite so, Aryan and/or Indo-European are not the good terms, because Aryan is the name of Hyperboreans in (V)India, while Indo-European means absolutely nothing, except some obscure quasi-Geographic and purely linguistic notion, obviously only understandable to it's creator, naturally without any connection to the inside and outside of human being.

Anyway, the best man who can answer your question is obviously Julius Evola, but there's also Bela Hamvas, Friedrich Nietzsche and few others...

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Then it means that Greeks - whose main political-organizational unit was also polis - are not Hyperboreans? Polis was the favourite political unit of the Greeks during the brightest period of their culture (the Classical Age). During those times they looked with scorn towards political units of different organizational forms, like the Kingdom of Macedonia or the Persian Empire. For the classical Greeks living in poleis, they were barbarians.
Bingo!

But one can also say that ancient Greece was the land where desert thought meets the solar ( Hyperborean) thought, where Hyperborean Hellenes meet the desert Cretans and Pelasgians. There was enough of both - chtonic cults, snake and stone worshiping, female deities related with the fertility cults, widespread homosexuality and pederasties etc. All signs of desert.

There were also solar signs - supreme god of thunder, sky, and justice - Zeus, sun gods Apollo and Helios, Spartan courage and war craft, the myth of Perseus in which he kills the typical chtonic deity of middle east - the Minotaurus and stops the practice of human sacrificing in Crete, in typical chtonic building - the labyrinth etc.

No wonder that advocates of renaissance, the "enlightenment", reformation etc all looked upon the ancient Greece as of political, economical, cultural and religious beacon of "light" (Lux) and role model. After all, these advocates weren't called Illuminati for nothing...

But, under the rule of Alexander and his successors, and Rome, Greece started being more Hyperborean influenced than in earlier days, with a climax of course in Byzantine times.

This just shows how stupid and shallow Hitler was, for loving "Aryan" classical Greece and hating untermensch mixed medieval Greeks.
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