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I have not said that Germanic is everyone speaking a Germanic language.
You said it is a linguistic term, and not an ethnical one. So how is a black girl born in Denmark speaking Danish, a Germanic language, a Germanic? Or, is she not of Germanic ancestry and just speaking a Germanic language?
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That surely depends on which context you use it in.
There is only one context.
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One thing is certain though: Germanic is hardly a genealogical term.
So it is a linguistic term? So who is speaking Germanic languages (mother tongue)?
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It represents an abstract classification of languages, based on similarities recognized between them, and the associated cultures in old ages. We can speculate the common proto-Indo-European origin of Germanic languages.
Of course there is much speculation, but there even exists an Indo-Germanic dictionary.
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It is not used by people as an ethnic self-designation.
No wonder, after decades of brainwashing and lies. Today we even are taught non-European immigrants with FRG or Danish passports were Germans or Danes...
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Most people dont know its full meaning, probably; and most people that do, know it as a linguistic term.
The fact people do not know the full meaning does not mean there is no meaning at all.
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I dont have anything against Germany.
Who claimed you had?
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Germany, in fact, along with other nations, is one of the nations I admire the most of any nation in the world.
Thank's a lot, you surely mean past centuries.
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You talking as if all this stemmed from anti-Germanism implies the assumption that all Germanic-speakers are all genealogically the same, though, and the same as Germans.
Which, of course, is entirely false. The genealogy of Europe and Germanic countries is complex, and surely cannot be reduced to a few linguistic sub-groups.
You purposefully misinnterprete what I said. I never claimed Swedes or Danes were the same like Germans, they both are their own ethnicity, neither did I claim they as such geneagologically were the same.
Of course does the intense anti-Germanic propaganda have to do with anti-German resentments. Many English spindoctors were keen to point out Anglo-Saxons were no Germanic people (but a tribe of Israel), in order to make people believe they were not related with Germans, similar things happened in Norway and Denmark right after WW2. BTW you call us "tysk" which means "Deutsche", it was the English starting to call us "Germans" and our land "Germany", instead of Deutschland (tyskland). Germany is Germanien in German language, an inproper description for Deutschland since Deutschland just was a part of Germania.
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Because inside those sub-groups, you will find groups of people that might as well be more related genealogically to someone outside of the specific linguistic group. Any population is diverse, and when groups such as PIEs split up, the diversity will most likely be preserved genealogically, even if one group from one bloodline ends up with a dialect different from most others in the same bloodline.
Did I say a meta-ethnicity or an ethnicity could not consist of several subraces?
No, I did not, so what is your point?
I once read Churchill said we Germans were an own race. This is crap.
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Your point that speaking a Germanic language is not a racial or ethnic determinant, is one that is impossible to deny, but it also has to be stressed on a larger scale. Many of the current "Germanic" (speaking) countries have componental non-Germanic-specific origins.
Wait, I was talking about native-speakers and not about anyone having studied a Germanic language.
Of course we have influences of other people, like Slavs, both, genetically and in our language. This does not change the fact the main meta-ethnicity as well as ethnicity describes the majority of a certain folk.
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Not that it matters - because again, Germanic is not a valid way to simplify genealogy in the first place, so the observations indication is a truism we would have to assert without it.
Germanic people are a mix of several subraces, predominantly Nordid and Cromagnid (Faelid). This does not mean everyone being genetically of this stock must be Germanic.
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