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95% of both people and nationalists in Denmark dont know the word "Germanic" for anything else than something very distant from everyday life: a classification of languages and old age cultures associated with them.
OK. Give me the proof to substantiate this claim. You are saying 95%, and unless you made it up, you should back it up for both nationalists and and people in general. I'm not really doubting that it may be correct for Denmark. What I don't like is your quasi-scientific style of argumentation.

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You are saying it is patriotic to recognize oneself as Germanic? Pff. That is such BS. It has nothing to do with anything of concern.
No. I didn't say that. I said that it is much more common among Swedish nationalists, patriots and intellectuals who love their own culture to recognize that they are Germanic, compared to the ignorant masses who never think about ethnic concerns. I did not say that flashing around the label "Germanic" will make you a nationalist or a patriot.

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No one use Germanic as an ethnic self-designation in the society of Denmark
I don't think you can be sure that "no one" does it, but the point is that this is not a good argument, even if it would be true. If we take it seriously, we should also take all arguments based on what most people say "in society" seriously.

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Its just not taken seriously in society. Surveys have shown that Danes are among the most pan-European in orientation, so that is the only meta-ethnicity people on a societal basis identify with. That is the only real identity, the only broader ethnicity we honor, except for "Danish".
Are you sure that those "surveys" aren't EU propaganda? Sweden had a drive of that several years before the EU entry and onwards, to make us at ease with the idea of giving away our souvereignity to the EU. And we still get it. They never stop. Most of the statistics they use to "prove" something is not even good statistics, and some of it is made up of lies altogether. I can give you an example: Those who wanted Swedes to say yes to the euro currency said that the peoples who already have the euro were happy with it and thought that it was good for them. The "proof" was sprayed all over Sweden with the help of the corrupt mass media, and they fooled Swedish teenagers to walk around in the streets looking fancy, being "nice" and speaking to people about it, giving them flyers with "the evidence", which was given in the form of staples supposedly representing how many percent praised the euro where they have it. I did my research, and when one of them approached me I confidently said straight to his face what a liar he was, so that everyone around would hear me, and his face turned all red as I revealed the fake. You see, the question that they asked people where they already have the euro was not if the euro was good for them - it was: Do you think that we should change back to our previous currency? And no wonder, that was not such a popular idea, because it had become known to them how big business had taken advantage of the change of currency to raise prices unashamedly, so that prices of everything everywhere in their land were raised, making it harder for ordinary people to make ends meet.

However, you confirm that you are founding your views on what most people think. It's not a sound argument, even if at all it were true.
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