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Originally Posted by MisterSinister
Finns are Europeans since 8-10 000 yrs and that's well before Greeks were hit by the billiard ball that took them to Europe...
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See if you can learn something from this:
Look at it well, because it also by a chance of history that Northern Africa is not Europe. Much like I said that it is by a chance of history that Finland is Europe. What you are seeing in that map is no more and no less that the very origins of Europe as a Civilization (not as a more or less defined geographical appendix of the Eurasian Continent, with primitive cavemen spread here and there).
And though the name of these origins of Europe is Roman Empire, its culture is called Graeco-Roman not for no reason.
As history went by, more people came to assimilate this high ideal of Europa. Either through Roman (most Germanics) or through Byzantium (most Slavics). I would call this the second ball being directly hit by the first ball. And only later came the the europeanization of other peoples, through these, as in the case of the Finns (either by Germanics or by Slavics), which is where the ball hits the third ball... indirectly.
Now you come with an "average" ... of what? of genetic distances between... "Europeans"? Give me a break. With the current trends in Europe, 1,000 or 2,000 years from today someone will make an average of "European" populations and this average will come closest to: (1) Sub-Saharan Africa, (2) Eastern Asia, (3) Northern Africa, (4) Middle East, ... or thereabouts.
But, will you dare to say then that someone of mostly Bantu ancestry will be "more European" than someone of mostly XXth century European ancestry... be this ancestry Norwegian, Greek, ... or even Finnish?
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