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Originally Posted by Mynydd
Of course most don't call themselves Occitans, which is not surprising if you consider how long the Occitan identity has been supressed. However, it is not merely incidental that even so they do stress that they are different (identity) to the northern [French] people.
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They surely are and feel different from Northern [French] people, but the thing is that most of them consider themselves (and not only Northern people) as French anyway. It may be due to Jacobinism, but also, in my opinion, to the fact that there have never been a politically united Occitania
. They don't have this historical mark.
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Originally Posted by Mynydd
It all boils down to finding the glue that reunites the name (Occitan) to the identity (Southern).
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But not all Occitan people have this Southern identity : I used the example of
Auvergne in another thread.
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Originally Posted by Mynydd
I don't recall having ever stated that Brittany is nothing more than a French province. Perhaps my discussions around the Breton identity have led you to believe that. I won't apologize for not taking the Breton identity as a dogma of faith.
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We had a discussion on this subject here :
More on the question of the Breton and Gallic identity
You said that France and Brittany shared a common Gallic identity (and therefore French), but you strangely excluded Occitans from it. It seemed to me that you meant that Occitan separatism had a legitimacy but not the Breton one. It try to say here that it is not that simple.
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Originally Posted by Mynydd
Still, I should feel a sympathy for a Breton cause. And I used to, but nothing should be taken for granted.
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That's your right, but is it because of personal reasons ?
If so, I would say that you can have a bad experience with the supporter of a cause, it will not mean that this cause is wrong anyway. I know Breton nationalists (not all of them independentists) who would completely agree with your line of reasoning, for example.