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Default Re: Re : Re: The Northern-Southern Italian divide [split]

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Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
I don't think that the average Southern French guy really know what the border between Occitania and Francia is. He feels 'Southern' and different from Northern people (Breton being probably even more 'exotic'), but he probably feels French as well.
The average 'southern' that you mention is the one that I've seen times and again explaining how the gabachos that we refer to is not them, but the people north.

Of course most don't call themselves Occitans, which is not surprising if you consider how long the Occitan identity has been supressed. However, it is not merely incidental that even so they do stress that they are different (identity) to the northern [French] people.

It all boils down to finding the glue that reunites the name (Occitan) to the identity (Southern).

Coma totis los mainatges
Som anat a l'escòla
Coma totis los mainatges
M'an après a legir
M'an cantat plan de cançons
M'aprenguèron tant d'istorias :
Lutèce... Paris... Paris...

Mas perqué, perqué
M'an pas dit à l'escóla
Lo nom de mon païs ?

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Btw, Mynydd, why do you seem to think now that Brittany is nothing other than a French province ? Because of Gauls ?
I don't recall having ever stated that Brittany is nothing more than a French province. Perhaps my discussions around the Breton identity have led you to believe that. I won't apologize for not taking the Breton identity as a dogma of faith.

For your information, my family name happens to be Breton in origin (thus the game word of 'Mynydd'). The first arrived to Spain in the late XVI century and settled not far from where the Armada de Bretaña had its port base, to help the cause of the Breton League against the French.

But never mind about that. On that side we have gained the privilege of being Spanish. Still, I should feel a sympathy for a Breton cause. And I used to, but nothing should be taken for granted.

My next name in line is, guess what... Occitan. That's less rare since no few Occitans took part in the Conquest to the Moors here, and there are known elements of repopulation from Occitania.

Oh dear! I guess that all of that makes me genetically prediposed against anything French! Or no. No need for it. After all I'm a reasonable person and, besides it suffices for me with being Spanish for that predisposition.

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If so, I will consider Catalunya as a French country since Catalan is considered as a Gallo-Romance language in France.
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