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Based on what? Please give me a valid citation for that claim.
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Based on latest studies involving genome wide SNP markers , you can browse them for yourself from google, or ask them personally from Polako at HBF. It's really not difficult to assess the material.
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agree, genetics have replaced metrics, so theres no point in discussing Nordids and Borreby and 500 other phenotypes. They are simply phenotypes, defined by humans, not races or "sub-races".
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Correct, based on man-made boundaries and non-racial traits such as facial -and cephalic index.
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What do you mean when you say Mediterranean? Anyone in the Mediterranean, or the phenotype?
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Mediterranian type and Mediterranians, just like in up in the north nothing seperates Portugalian with high cephalic-index and low low facial-index as opposed to Portugalian with low cephalic index and high facial index. After all they are family, and narrow and broad individuals breed each others there as well.
Although, I cannot deny that Swedish genepool provides allele frequencies which produce more leptomorph people than Portugal or Polish genepool f.e. I cannot prove this but It's based on my own personal experiences as well as those notorious metrical studies from the 30's. After all Sweden is the most "Nordid" country in the world.
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Again, please give me a valid citation to support the fact that a phenotype called Mediterranean is racially distinguishable from "Borreby" and "Nordid".
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Based on the typological system which I just mentioned, caucasoid can be spilitted into Northern European, Southern European and middle-eastern and in maybe North-East European (a Northern European with slight Uralic admixture) but even the so-called Ladogan types of North-Eest Europe cluster way more tightly with Nordids than Nordids cluster with any Mediterranian groups, irrespectable of phenotype. Why? Because Northern European Ladogans are genetically more related to Nordids than Nordids to Mediterranians. [b]In the end metrics don't mean a shit, why? Because metrics doesn't measure the degree of relationship.
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BTW despite I've taken a harsh tone on physical antropology alone I cannot dismiss the science itself. Physical antropology is doing well and is on the increase, it's nowdays through very advanced machines measuring crania. The study which I mentioned on previous posts regarding to Caucasoid skulls is based on these measures. 21th century physical antropology just like genetics have proved that races exist and are well alive. However, these studies have also reveled us that cephalic-index and facial index's are non-racial traits and that Caucasoid skulls have traits which unify them and differ them from negroid and mongoloid skulls.
Here's 21th century physical antropology study on baltic-Finns based on craniological measures. Involves not so much genetics although compares the result with them. Unfortunately I didn't have modern physical study of North-West European type
http://www.mankindquarterly.org/samp...ccorrected.pdf