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Originally Posted by Lutiferre View Post
And that is both positive in negative. Our culture today is more anti-nationalistic than ever - nationalism used to be presumed rather than advocated, and we've gone from there to the point where advocating it is a death sin in many peoples eyes.
This is not our culture. It is foreign.
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You still cant reject paganism and European religion just as the "culture of our ancestors" and "not us".
If you want to be pagan, knock yourself out. I have no objections because it's your personal choice, after all.
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Its the ethnocultural legacy of any proud European.
As is the Christianity.
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No, many Europeans were never Christian to begin with. Most youth are raised in Christian societies without believing (as myself) and gradually find out about things such as paganism, which they identify with because it is relevant to their own culture.
Well, if that makes them happy..
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I disagree. It is exactly the same with Nazism. An ideology itself doesnt start a war. In that case, I could invent a hostile ideology now and start a war. Incorrect. Nazism isnt by any standard destructive, that is your opinion. National Socialism is indoctrinated by education systems and the media to be destructive ideologies (by any standard) but anyone with the guts to admit it knows otherwise. I'm not a nazi, but I'm not going to call it universally destructive either, that is simply not part of its base agenda. The Third Reich might have been destructive, but that doesnt make the ideology (which is just the fundamental basis, not the essence or nature of all affairs or crimes committed by its proponents) universally destructive.
I was not talking about National Socialist program, but about their ideology as a whole. And that ideology included aryan supremacism, anti-Semitism and anti-Slavism, which later served as a basis for their irredentism. I don't know if you were either not aware of that, or you intentionally disregarded all the facts. I find it rather amusing that you keep trying to compare(and thus equalize) Nazism and Christianity, but at the same time I find it to be quite offensive.

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Since both Celts and Germanic peoples may themselves be the descendants of Cimmerians and certain other Iranic tribes, no it is not alike.
Celtics and Germanics descended from Iranic tribes? Maybe Germans, but to some far lesser extent than you implied.

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The immigration and assimilation of other Iranic tribes, is also, not the same, because it wasnt self-imposed, which Christianity is.
Right... Read my post please.. I said "much alike", and not "the same". You can find as many distinctions you want, but basically both events are much alike.
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