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Originally Posted by Lutiferre

I didnt mean a literal enemy, just hostile cultures in general.

I still fail to see how Christianity is hostile.

The debate is pretty much about what really is our culture. You can argue that Christianity is justified because we've have it for so long, you can argue it isnt, and you can argue that European belief systems are dead (which could never be entirely true since there are sincere believers, and it would be unfair to undermine them - but we're talking on a societal level). That is one of the core reasons for difference in opinion.

Exactly. As you said, we're talking about our culture today, and not about the culture of our ancestors. As I've said before, we're not our ancestors. We're new, different people.

Its arguable that many Europeans have some level of Middle Eastern descent, such as Alani influence, Cimmerian and Scythian ancestry, and Iranic descent of some Balkans. But lets not mix arbitrary and entirely voluntary choices of (and thereby self-imposed, contrary to genetics and the anthropology of Europe, which anyway, is what it is and that is European) religion with anthropology, genetics and other subjects.

Oh, but these two events are so much alike, wouldn't you say? When Christianity first came to Europe it absorbed many pagan beliefs and incorporated them into itself, as well as big part of European philosophy(as Plethon mentioned earlier), thus becoming a hybrid between the original religion and numerous European components. In the same way did the "Middle Easterners" incorporate themselves into European ethnic substrata, thereby changing it forever. And that is my humble opinion. We're not the same people as our ancestors were 2000 years ago. I believe that there's no point in coming back to "our roots", because people who represented that roots have died long time ago. And their ways have died with them.

I have just one question for you.. Did the pagan beliefs in Europe survive because people sincerely(thus secretly) believed in it for centuries, or were they simply revived by a sudden rejection of Christianity, as a "Semitic" and "non-European" religion? I'm asking that because I've met a fair number of people, mainly from the Scandinavian countries, who were born as Christians but have eventually begin to reject it, saying that it's not theirs and that they'll rather embrace the "original" European beliefs.

Many people have died in not-so-peaceful Christian and Islamic conflicts, or killed by agendas these religions account for. There are many examples, but the point is that it is subjective how "aggressive" and "destructive" Islam and Christianity indeed are, and same with Nazism.

As I have said before, Christianity and Islam are both benevolent religions in their basis, while Nazism is a destructive ideology. When speaking about religions and wars, be advised that it is not the religion that starts a war, but destructive and malevolent people. Which is exactly the opposite with ideologies like Nazism.