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Default Re: Movements with potential and credibility

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Originally Posted by Degenuicide View Post
The question is how much it matters, the level of Neo-Nazi-ness of the individual movements. Just for the sake of the experiment, I've asked a lot of my Danish friends what they think about nationalism or even national socialism, and articulating the question with a slightly nationalistic or even racist tone.

And a lot of people, that arent politically "active", when talking to only friends (when no blacks or etc are present), have nationalistic sentiments, and many even admire Adolf Hitler, all though not meaning it totally seriously, they are serious about their nationalistic sentiments.
It matters. A lot.

I wonder how wide is your circle of friends and how representative it is of the Danish people. I don't know Denmark and I can only guess. But my guess would be that we are speaking of the marginal few.

As it happens, there are many more people out there who would likely support a True Nationalist option, but who refuse to be related with nazis, neo-nazis or new-age nazis because they are nothing like them. I, for one, am one of those people. And I suspect that the starter of this thread is also one. Like are many more here. But don't take my word for it and ask them, if you want to find out by yourself.

I find it terribly annoying when I see honest and true Nationalist people working hard to organize a protest or a campaign, and when they do it the usual freaks turn up on the scene with their fetishist fashion for sieg-heiling and for the little man of the small moustache, just in time to ruin the hard work of others.

I find it terribly annoying when people with honest and true concerns for their families and lineages, their peoples and their societies gather in public forums to discuss and to share their views and concerns, and every now and then some irresponsible individual attaches himself to the crowd to come with who knows which nonesene about cheap racial supremacy, freak eugenics or any pseudo-esoteric views on who knows what else.

And then I wonder, if they are seen being so loud about euthanasia and other methods of extermination, have they ever considered that under strict and serious methods of selection they should step ahead and volunteer as patients? If only for the sake of being consequent with the views that they proclaim.

Or maybe I'm being too harsh and what they need is some caring love and affection. If so, blame it on a feeling of hopelessness.

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I myself am a user on most of the biggest nationalist sites, such as the Aryan sites, PAA, PANF, Stormfront, WhiteRevolution, and some of the real extremist sites.
To the best of my knowledge, you have not named one single Nationalist site there. Much on the contrary, all those sites stand for constructs that are diametrically opposed to any idea of Nationalism.

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While I dont agree with many "movement-specific" sentiments shared by a lot of those member communities, there are some things we agree on, and especially Stormfront has lots of members that disagree with each other - they are very divided.
A cage of crickets can be something very noisy.

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We should build a united movement on the most essential common sentiments we share, which is nationalism and separatism. Whether we call ourselves whites, Europoids, Caucasians, Caucasoids, European, Aryan, or the Nordish and Medish race, is less important.
Is this some plan for collective suicide? Or would it be a lobby to obtain higher doses of methadone?

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The most important thing in the whole European nationalist movement (which ultimately is the most neutral expression for the movement as a whole) is that we agree on the most basic things.
The problem is that we not even agree in the most basic things. Whereas you define Nationalism as an ultimately "the most neutral expression", others are true Nationalists and they object to their feelings and ideas being used as a blanket to hide anything that is not about Nationalism, but that it is about deception and ultimately careless and irresponsible egocentrism.

And I'm being very lenient with the words that I'm using here.

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And we should start uniting instead of dividing, or we will end up with agendas that are relatively similar, yet not cooperate.
Speaking of agendas, what's yours?

Anyone who had a minimum reading through Stirpes will notice that the general feeling of the members here is more or less along the lines that I've mentioned, with whatever variations left or right, or up or down, depending on the invidual member. Come on, it only takes very little reading through the forums to realize that much.

So let me give you three options and you pick up the closest:
  1. You did not take any time to read through the forums, you just assumed things because you confuse Nationalism with something altogether different.
  2. You did take a little time to read through the forums, but you did not comprehend what people discuss in them.
  3. You did read enough and you have no problems with comprehension. But for some reasons that you are not going to tell, you had to put things upside down and then mix them up to look something different.
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