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Originally Posted by Plethon
PS. There are far deeper and intellectually more powerful atheist treatises than this worthless propagandistic rant written by Dawkins. For example, Nietzsche or Heidegger, who are worth reading
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The book wasn’t philosophical intentioned, and not an emotional rant, you just misinterpreted what you think to believe to be the message and goal of that book. That, you only managed to do so by your subjective internal motives, not by a normal logic manner of having knowledge on the content of the book and on that building your argumentation. Giving systematically negative comments on something you don’t know the content of, is truly emotional motivated and not by reason.
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Originally Posted by Gonzalvus
Since I'm not religious, I'd be willing to believe what you say --and I even can accept it in the individual level. But when we talk about big numbers, societies, civilizations, I think religion is an essential factor. As I said, I reached that conclussion reading History, it's not based in any religious prejudice.
Why is the Islamic civilization a menace to us? Because they are strongly religious, and that makes them powerful as a group. If they weren't religious, they wouldn't be more than one of the many third world cultures in this planet, as menacing to us as australian aboriginals.
Applying this to our case, I believe that much of our greatness as a civilization is based in our common religion: Christianism. Without Christianism we would have been turkified hundreds of years ago.
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I don't necessarily subject to the message of the Empiricists, I just showed an other interpretation on morality and the supernatural, then the necessary correlation between the both.
That Christianity did good is without question, but reflecting the possibility of the inadequacy of correctness religion claims, the wrongdoings would be morally absurd.