[Lagun]

Originally Posted by Seekers

I was speaking about "good morality", and I realize that I should have chosen a more specialized vocabulary. I think what I meant was something like true morality, which must rest upon a foundation. Isn't that what connects faith and values, faith being the foundation, and morality that which emanates from God through the soul? Arguably there is also a cultural or ethnic element involved in what is usually thought of as morality, but I distinguish between agreement and true and grounded morality. Culture should encompass both, I think.

Building systems of thought will just about always create logical problems, but that's what I think.

So there could be cases of people with no faith but with a "connection with God" that could be proved through their high moral values?