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Originally Posted by Mynydd
That presumes that the spiritual beliefs of Christianism are in the Book of Genesis. Which is as wrong as it can get. Needless to says, it points to a total lack of knowledge of Christianism and Christendom itself.
Without Genesis, no original sin, and no need for Christ.

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Are you by chance referring to the external signs of primitive religions? Because if that's so, it is unrelated.
The evolution of religion reigns from the concept of the taboo towards polytheism and then monotheism. It got an increase of complexity but the basic definition still stands; Christianity delivers its version of events and justifications in the world.

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To bring Islam into the debate as if pretending that it is the cause of all our problems, in defense of a pretended scientistic (materialistic) absolute, is a swindle that diverts the attention from the source of all problems.

And the fact is that Islam only becomes a problem for European societies from the moment that this materialistic (your scientistic) approach to Man takes over and destroys the strong foundations upon which European societies had been built up.

It is only when Europeans have been largely stripped off the strength once provided by their spiritual beliefs (Pagan at a time, then Christian), by the religion of materialism and pseudo-scientism, that we are left out in the cold as easy preys for peoples from societies which are stronger than us. Call them Islamics or call them something else, it matters little.

Though I personally appreciate you, I see what's wrong with your expositions and I believe that I know the source of it, which if discussed in more depth they should take us to an inter-ethnic conflict of interests.
What you call pseudo scientism is influenced by your personal feelings, your reference to materialism as a religion is of course false, Western materialism as a philosophical idea takes a stand against religion, only by corruption of the concept of religion and broadened it in a almost nihilistic way statements like yours can make sense, religion in this thread asks for the supernatural. Your criticism on materialism on todays problems is easy and false, it is general cultural relativism that allows naivete to settle down in the Western consensus, and that is a result of the totalitarian past in which scientific racism caused much harm.
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