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Default Re: Putin Accuses Europe of Ignoring Nazism in the Baltics

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Originally Posted by Hweinlant View Post
Your pov of being European is yours. I have no objections against that.
I take it that "pov" is and abbreviation for point of view?
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May be we are not "european" enough for you.
I never said such a thing. "European" is not a one big homogenous identity. There is a wide variety.
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Nothing new for me really. We are strange non-IE people anyway.
I'm not one either.
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Considering me nordicist in something I will not tolerate, since I'm not one.
I referred to the general crowd, not you in particular.
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I'm big fan of Spanish culture for example. I love Jamon Serrano and have only positive vibes towards Iberians (regardless of you).
Well, we've had different experiences. If you are having "negative vibes" towards me because I don't accept that you impose your bias on me, there is little that I can do about it since I'm not going to accept it just for the sake of changing the polarity of your vibes.
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Baltic criminal gangs are non-existanct, they do not exist. They are all Russkies. Get it. Latvija is 45% Russkie occupied.
Often it is the opposite that there is mentioning of Russians, when they are actually not. But believe me that these are Baltics.
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How many Finnish or Swedish criminal gangs you have there ? 0 I guess.
Even if I found some, why should I then conclude that Finland is a country of criminals?
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Russians in Finland are generally pretty good bunch. They are very different than Russkie scum in Estonia. There is difference between occupation and immigration.
Immigration, the way it is happening, is occupation.
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Russia is big and has lot of different people. Significant minority is good people, majority is chauvinist assholes.
I hear different from people who know the country.
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Visit Estonia and you will learn. Visiting Finland is different thing, they need to speak our "non-european" language to cope with.. No Russkie master here, when in Rome...
I hope that you don't think that I agree with the presence of Russians in Finland. Or with any gratuitous hostility of Russia against Finland.
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You have romantic idea of Russkie... They have inherited Mongol (Golden Horda) way of rule, they have nothing to do with Europeans. Genetic similarity has nothing to do with mental similarity. Russia/SU has it's roots in Mongol Rule.
Well, that's nonesense. None of the Russians that I've ever met gave me that impression, at all. A different people to us? Of course. But so are Germans, Greeks, or Finns.
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Bashing me about Eurasian pov is noll. Average Russkie thinks with Russkie pov, where Eurasianism is the core. They want to be superpower and all of us being Slaves. Thats how they think. Yankees are yankees and russkies are russkie.
Honestly, you are not making much sense here.
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They consider themselves as master race. You want to be slave ? Your choice.
Of course not. But let me think.. I don't remember that the Russians have ever attempted to invade us. Or other Slavic people for that matter. I do, however, remember from history that we've had hordes of Germanics over our heads. In fact there was a whole world of which we were a part, that was destroyed back then. They say that history repeats itself, and now it is happening again..

But never mind about that now. More than 1,600 years have passed since those Christmas, and today we are the people of a new, different Europe that resulted from those events. So we must live in the present, if we want to have a future. And all I see is things being done the wrong way, everywhere I look.

In this new Europe, Russians are Europeans by their own right. Just like Finns or Germans are. I don't see Russians pretending to be superior to us. But I do see others who live much closer to us and who do pretend that much. In the end, if a wide and overall cooperation is not possible, one is free to choose allegiances or sympathies.

By the way, wasn't the Teutonic Knights who invaded the Baltics and subjugated the people?
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