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My apologies. I pressed the submit button too quick after point #8.

Originally Posted by Portugraal Luzo

9º- Portugal does not need to return for "Spain", for the geographic Mátria "Hispânia-Iberia", because it always was here. It does not need to return where already it is. (the west is geographic different of Plateaus of the Meseta).

For the mere reason of being a geographic location, nothing is a Matria.

Although the idea of Matria is one which I would gladly discuss with relation to the territories (Patrias?) of The Spains (Natio et Matria?).

10º - Taste of Spain and all the Espanhas in general, I do not feel no feeling of inferiority in relation to Castile, or Lion, or Catalonia, under for the the opposite, I feel great admiration and esteem for the Espanhas, as Iberian that I am.

We share that much, don't we?

By the way: Portugal, the First World-wide Empire in History in 4 Continents, cannot have no feeling of inferiority to who wants that it is (with respect for Spain who was the largest Empire in world in the final of XVI cent. and in XVII century etc.)

Actually, the largest was at the time when all of The Spains were reunited under the same crown for the first time since the fall of Toledo.

This thing about inferiority/superiority is stupid, really. I only find inferior people on an individual, one to one basis. As groups, I suppose that the idea is despicable. But that's all off-topic here.

Clarification: I don´t share in nothing racism in this fórum.

This forum is not racist.

I am here only for clarifying that the Portuguese Nation is independent at 900 years without being against anyone(even having in account the attempts of unfication of crowns at some times). Before Being been, Portugal is NATION, línguístic and etnográfich - and with 900 years, in allegiance to its Heroes.

You are, of course, entitled to your belief. However, there is a flaw in how you mean nation there.

"Nation" is not a criation of XIX century.

Agreed.

In 1400, Fernão Lopes and Gomes Eanes de Azurara(Cronicles in Portugal) wrote about Portugal as a "Nation", not only a kingdom. Lisbon like the "Head"(Fernão Lopes). In XVI century Luis Vaz de Camões spoke about Peninsula in "Os Lusíadas" - "Hespanha", the head of Europe, but in same national Poem he wrotes about Portugal as "Patria" and "Nation"(both terms are in the Poem) and other Peninsular Peoples as "Foreigners".

There is, certainly, some confusion there.

So, we are brothers and friends of our Peninsular Neighbors, of course;

Not for sharing some geographical location, though.

and Portugal is a Nation, before anithing, and Independent against anyone (but in Peace and fraternity), after this, is Iberian, and after this is European.

Let's leave it in that it is an Iberian (Spanish) State for now.