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Old Monday, October 22nd, 2007
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Default Re: Portuguese State-Nationalism vs Spanish Ethno-Nationalism

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1º - Portu-Cale was born of the secession with the Galicia North, integrated in the Kingdom of Lion, is truth - We recognize this.
2º - We know however that Galicia is in itself a name that was born of a unique tribe in the estuary of the Douro - in who was today PORTO-GAIA, the heart of the Portuguese Territory. The CALLAÉCI (situated in Porto and Gaia) had extended its name at the time of territorial Roman organization to the next equal tribes its: Gróvios, Limios, Brácaros, Elenos, Brigantium etc. (North of Portugal and Galicia).
3º- Of the CALÉCI (in Porto, Gaia etc.) two names had been born: CALÉCIA (Galicia) and PORTU-CALE (Portugal).
4º- the Origin of the Galicia is therefore in heart of Portugal - Port-Calaeci. The LUSITANIA(in center, south etc.), for its side, is not a tribe but it was a set of tribes.
5º. - It was this Identity that, independent from 1128 and 1139. if extended for south, until the extreme of Algarve.
6.º- The Kingdom of Portugal was until the extreme south, but the Kingdom of the Algarve (Strait litoral band in the south) remained as "Kingdom" only in the nominal plan.
7º- In Portugal, the "Foros" or "Fueros" as in Spain do NOT ever exist . Portugal was ALL a Kingdom in itself until the south extreme in Miedle Ages and Morden ages. The Strait litoral Band in south(The unique nominally separate as "Kingdom of the Algarve") - the Algarve NEVER had any "Foros" - "Fueros". Portugal was alone a Kingdom always, and the "Foros" were exclusively directed for cities and villages - Cities and villages, from Minho to the Algarve - "Municipios".
8º- Either in the Ancient Tradition of the MIRACLE of Ourique that certifies the Teofania of the Founder who received Illumination from JESUS CHRIST (D. Afonso Henriques in Alentejo - 1139); either in the MIRACLE of Fátima in 1917, where the SAINT VIRGEN MARY if also relates "PORTUGAL", not it "Spain", "Spains" or "etnias", but in Nations - SHE spoke in "Nations", "Portugal" and "Russia".
8º - It is therefore a separate identity-Nation that it forged from North to south, with a proper language and the oldest borthers of the Europe(with an exception) - in West of Lusitain "Matria", very difernt in general(etnographic and geographic diferent of the most part of the Center of Meseta).
9º- Portugal does not need to return for "Spain", for the geographic Mátria "Hispânia-Iberia", because it always was here. It does not need to return where already it is. (the west is geographic different of Plateaus of the Meseta).
10º - Taste of Spain and all the Espanhas in general, I do not feel no feeling of inferiority in relation to Castile, or Lion, or Catalonia, under for the the opposite, I feel great admiration and esteem for the Espanhas, as Iberian that I am. By the way: Portugal, the First World-wide Empire in History in 4 Continents, cannot have no feeling of inferiority to who wants that it is(with respect for Spain who was the largest Empire in world in the final of XVI cent. and in XVII century etc.) - alone it has that to learn with who at this moment it presents greaters "indíces" of development, either Spain, Great-Britain, Germany etc.
Clarification: I don´t share in nothing racism in this fórum.
I am here only for clarifying that the Portuguese Nation is independent at 900 years without being against anyone(even having in account the attempts of unfication of crowns at some times). Before Being been, Portugal is NATION, línguístic and etnográfich - and with 900 years, in allegiance to its Heroes."Nation" is not a criation of XIX century.
In 1400, Fernão Lopes and Gomes Eanes de Azurara(Cronicles in Portugal) wrote about Portugal as a "Nation", not only a kingdom. Lisbon like the "Head"(Fernão Lopes). In XVI century Luis Vaz de Camões spoke about Peninsula in "Os Lusíadas" - "Hespanha", the head of Europe, but in same national Poem he wrotes about Portugal as "Patria" and "Nation"(both terms are in the Poem) and other Peninsular Peoples as "Foreigners".
So, we are brothers and friends of our Peninsular Neighbors, of course; and Portugal is a Nation, before anithing, and Independent against anyone (but in Peace and fraternity), after this, is Iberian, and after this is European.

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