[Errigal]

Originally Posted by svin

Actually usually people even with very distant jewish ancestors are very positive towards Jews and even Judaism.

I would agree. I think this is especially true in the Anglosphere and likely in the Russia of the oligarchs. Christopher Hitchens is just one example of someone who "discovered" a Jewish granny in the family closet when he moved to the world of New York journalism.

Originally Posted by Plethon

Or even if he has, it is in that case only a one-sided relationship: he might be fond of Jewry, but the Jewry not fond of him.

Nicholas Sarkozy and Bernard Kouchner are two who heard the "call of the shofar".



Yes, I think they will be used and then tossed aside by real Jews sometime in the future.

Originally Posted by Exeter

There are several cases of people who have become curious and proud of their Jewish roots in their senior years.

I've seen it jokingly called "adult-onset Judaism" elsewhere on the Net.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The question is if they served the nation or if they served the country. I argue that they served the countries while making a disservice to the nations, which they corrupted to the bones.

That's right. Just one example is the German "patriot" Fritz Haber:

Fritz Haber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Mynydd

One problem with these "services" is the nature of lobbying, which is not unique to Jews. You don't need religious Jews to have them lobbying inside a host country, serving their interests and the country's interests at the same time. Even liberal Jews or simply atheistic/agnostic Jews do that.

Lobbying from within a host country is a deceit that serves the interests of a strange group against the interests of the core group, which is the nation.

If you analyze the working of the financial and trade system based in the Anglo-Saxon (or Liberal) School, you may come to ask yourself where the gains come from if you are not doing a physical effort to produce any goods or services. The answer is straight: your gains are others' losses.

Lobbying follows this practice, by benefitting the lobbyist group at the loss of the people who don't belong to that group.

In other words, Jewish lobbying is the most crude and bleeding form of racism, against the people who shelter them.

All very good points. As you mentioned, the Jewish method can be taken up by non-Jews who learn to enrich themselves using the same destructive techniques.