Re: Europeans with jewish ancestry: still europeans?
Budapest is full of Jews. I met many of them. Many young Israelis also move to Budapest for higher education. They really think of making money. They buy flats in old rundown buildings (mostly in district VI and VII), renovate them and rent them out to gentiles. I have seen this phenomenon in many countries.
I knew a woman in Budapest with Jewish ancestors who were thrown out of Spain. Her English was good. She had lived in England. She was against Zionism and didn't know any Hebrew. I don't know if she was telling the truth or not. Surprisingly, she commented on the phenotypes of different peoples a few times.
Don't forget the father of Zionism was born in Budapest. I can assure you a lot of gentiles in Hungary dislike Jews strongly. They would tell you in private. I got the same impression in Ukraine. I know Hungarians much better though. I personally think one should separate Zionism from anti-Semitism.
I don't mind having Jewish friends. I have partied and had dinner at restaurants with them. I even went to a Jewish New Year party once. My Norwegian friend was drunk and started a fight. It was clear he was being outnumbered and the Jewish bouncer was holding my friend. The bouncer was not very strong. I was sober. I was holding him so he couldn't do anything against my friend. It was a mess. In the end we just left the place. Individually Jews aren't very bold in my experience. They keep together though.
I've also been around Jews in higher education. They are a bit like the Chinese I met. They aren't necessarily more intelligent. I remember how they always seemed very stupid in the beginning. They make up for it with studying hard. They shared notes nd studied together more than others. They basically help each other. Assyrians are a bit similar from what I've seen. Perhaps Armenians as well who are surrounded by people of a different religion. It has to do with people who have been weak or had very little.
With Jews, I got the impression one is always an outsider among them.
Last edited by Exeter; Sunday, September 23rd, 2007 at 15:15.
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