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Default Re: End of Belgium should be a warning to Gordon

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Originally Posted by Exeter View Post
You make some good points.

Geographical realities such as islands, rivers and mountainous are indeed important in the formation of nation-states. Nation-states are of course different from the multi-ethnic historical states. The latter were merely political entities. Nation-states have an ethnic and cultural component. Could we say states preceded nation-states?
The did. Kingdoms, for example, are a form of state.

And so did nations precede nation-states.

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I think insular people tend to be more xenophobic.
Something along those lines.

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Other than that the ideas behind nationalism was spread to the rest of Europe with Napoleon.
That's debatable. Modernist Nationalisms were. Traditionalist Nationalism, on the other hand, was not.
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