Re: End of Belgium should be a warning to Gordon
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Originally Posted by Dr Fred
I am sick of hearing from ignorant Brits that Belgium has no history, as if the soil we call Belgium and the people we call Belgians appeared magically in 1830 out of nowhere. Of course, Belgium as a factice nation is no significant and has no history since it is barely two centuries old, but Belgium is an ARTIFICIAL country (and the people inhabiting it are no BELGIANS) made up of centuries old cultures... and this is hard for Brits to figure out, since their countries are naturally delimited by sea and cannot technically be "artifical", they have no notion of what is an "artificial nation"... (Great Britain didn't suddenly merge from the sea, if you know what I mean)...
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That's a very good point.
For a "British" person of all people to brand another country as "artifical" is irony taken to the extreme. This is the nation which somehow manages to have four national football teams.
What a bizarre little oddity it is, and for it to brand anywhere else as "artificial" can only be attributed to that peculiar English sense of humour.
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