[Bojo]

Originally Posted by Ariets

I would say if we are talking generally about the eastern cromagnoids, I would make categories like:

a) unreduced eastern cromagnoid - "Kurganoid" (Lundman's eastern Brunnid?), in my own opinion related to Faelid and maybe (not really sure) Berberid (but rather not? If yes they all maybe are from one Cromagnoid similar related "core"?) - with medium to tall stature; head large, long and high; mesomorphic body build; long or medium high rooted nose - straight (sometimes beetwen straight and concave); deep set eyes (or and moderatly); hair mainly straight, sometimes curly, definitly from all degrees of lightness (haircolour); eyes blue, grey and blue-grey. They look also somewhat Nordoid (b. also).

b) so-called "West-Baltid" of two types:

I. taller and more squarish faced
II. medium statured more squarish-rounded face.

Rest features are manly this same, but second variant seems to be more broad-faced, brachyliocephalic and sometimes Borreby-looking.
Both I & II propably are higheaded high-mesocephals and/or sub-brachyliocephalics; medium faced; nose similar to "Kurganoid" but little bit wider (not much); pigmentation of eyes and hair are light, but I've noticed that there is more brownheads than Kurganoids have; also mesomorphic strong body build.

c) (Standard or proper) "Baltids". To me personally they look like intermediates of "West Baltids" and "East Baltids" without "crazy eyes" as I call that (uralic fold or whatever). Also I have noticed they are more frequently ash-blond haired than the others. Similar to b.II. variant but much more rounded than squarish. Body build variation is also other, from lepto- to even pyknomorphic; high and sub-brachyliocephalic crania.

I guess there are more E.CM subtypes/derrivates et cetera

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d) "Ostbaltish"/"East Baltid" to me they shoudnt be categorised to eastern cromagnoid category, they very similar, also metrically to lappids. To me they can be higher, depigmented and more "euro" looking version of Lappids. And as so give me depigmented text-book lappid and give it to some board, how they would classify him?


Generally most tend to be squarish-headed I think. I think there must be also more Cromagnoid subtypes of one basic eastern type "Kurganoid" that we havent categorised or just calll Cromagnoid or Eastern Cromagnoid. And I have notice that many "Baltoids" tend to mix with Nordids, or maybe its natural process making them diffrent? Anyway its most common mix (E.CM+N) in slavic/balto-slavic or/and eastern populations. And By the way, I dont know why but I dont like that name - "Baltoid"/"Baltid".

Ps. I dont have enougch knowledge to make any good descriptions and present of my own view o racial types, so dont interpretate them to seriusly. I base mainly on my own observations on streets in my homeland and polish literature of Malinowski, Michalski et cetera.

What do you think Ariets about this type? Too varieties of West Baltid race?