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Last French Standing
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Last Online: Saturday, February 23rd, 2008 05:08
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Between the Rhine & the Vosges
Age: 22
Posts: 2,748
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Re: Nationalism and/or patriotism?
I have explained my vision of patriotism and nationalism there :
Stirpes Definition of "Nationalism"
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Originally Posted by Theobald
- First I think we should refer to "Patrie" (in French, Fatherland), that is "Fathers' land", the heritage we got from our ancestrors (material, spiritual, moral), the soil, the territory, the land. A Patrie is a land where successive human generations have cultivated fields, exploited mines, built houses, castels, universities, roads, factories, law courts, cemeteries, churches and cathedrals.
According to Maurras : "What is a Fatherland ? Fields, walls, towers and houses, churches, cemeteries and tombs . Nothing is more concret." Fatherland is therefore a product of History and a people.
- A Nation can't be defined without this heritage. It is the whole of its heirs, those who were born on this land. A Nation is the living community of the heirs, dead, currently alive or to come. The idea of Nation also implies a community of fate and a solidarity in time and space.
A Fatherland is rather a heritage whereas a Nation is a community of the heirs of this heritage.
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Nationalism can't exist without patriotism to me, since it is the political expression of patriotism. I give both a great and equal importance. I would say that patriotism comes from heart, nationalism from mind.
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