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Default Re: Lutheranism vs. Catholism

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I don't approve race-mixing because it changes the biological composition of a nation and not because of some metaphysical inequality.
So mongrels have dignity but you do not like them because they change the biological composition?
Foreign races and their mongrel offsprings caus damage just becaus they are inequal.
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OK, your opinion with which I disagree.
But not only theologians, also biologists would disagree.
Biologists that serve the current policy always fail when it is about explaining why certain people, that just differ from us because of some pigments in skin, never manage to maintain societies that enables them to live without poverty. The only reason they bring on is that the White race (here suddenly races exist) always exploits them and hampers their development.
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Rather a subjective opinion...
...based on experience.
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Once they are not present in a country, the question of their rights becomes irrelevant.
Agreed, but they are, in inreased numbers.
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Every man is responsible for his own actions, so are people of the Church.
So I agree that those responsible should be brought to trial.
We are in this mess because irresponsible people are in charge. I never met reasonable Church leaders, I wonder why reasonable Christians are in this minority.

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Of all the different social institutions I would say the Christian Church is the least to blame for this silly girl getting a child from a skinny no-hope Somali. Where was the government to keep him out of her country?
Who wants to grant them the same human dignity as you have again? Who grants illegal immigrants church-asylum? The government is crap, but I do not see any Church standing up against injustices and illegal actions of any government. The Catholic (monestary) school was proud of their martyrs - monks that stood up against the NS regime. Now they are sypathizers of an illegal and criminal regime.
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Where was her family to forbid her marriage to a stranger?
No idea, but my guess is in the former Yugoslav countries race-mixing is not welcomed (yet).
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Where were her friends to talk her out of this? Where were her nation's educated elite to counter the Hollywood propaganda machine?
The nation's educated elites tell me us there is only one human race and there is no such thing like race-mixing.
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The Church's teachings on universal human dignity and rights have nearly nothing to do with such cases.
I think the universal human dignity is the base for liberal democracies' universal human rights.
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Christian teaching says we should not lie, cheat, or steal from another human being or enslave them or kill them without good cause.
There is always a good cause to steal, cheat and lie.
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There is nothing about having to allow immigration. Don't forget we have been Christian in Europe for more than fifteen centuries while this sort of thing is almost exclusively a post-Sixties phenomenon.
I know, I have enough Christians in my family. That does not change the fact this belief system is a s flawed as e.g. the liberal democracy is, since both consider cosnstructed ideological views as truth and act as if this was true. The original idea of democracy also does not allow immigration, but look what we have today, there is no reason to stick with democracy any longer.
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