[bioblitzkrieg]

agrippa, one question, im not sure why fuller lips would fall under a progressive trait, since early hominids and sapiens had fuller lips "didnt they?" wouldnt it be the retaining of a primitive trait to possess fuller lips, When one envisions a peak type progressive, smaller and less fuller lips come to mind. Like the progressive nordid you posted on this thread, his lips are thin in comparison with the negrid shown, yet according to what you stated, the negrid's lips would be progressive, even over the thin lips of the nordid?

In many UP types full lips are present, like the actress liv ullman, does this serve as something in the realm of sexual selection?