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Default Re: Independentism in Spain: Would Spain still exist if she was divided?

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p.s. Torralba, I wouldn't judge Olivares too severely. I'm not sure if he could have done better with what he got.
Is true that Spain at that time was already exhausted of all the wars, with the economic issues and all the problems of the Spanish Crown.

He was loyal to his King and all the things he done was for the benefit of the Crown , but not for Spain or The Spains.

"No soy yo nacional, que eso es cosa de muchachos"

"Tenga V. Majd. por el negocio más importante de su Monarquía el hacerse rey de España; quiero decir, señor, no se contente V. Majd. con ser rey de Portugal, de Aragón, de Valencia, conde de Barcelona, sino que trabaje y piense, con consejo maduro y secreto, por reducir estos reinos de que se compone España al estilo y leyes de Castilla sin ninguna diferencia, que si V. Majd. lo alcanza será el príncipe más poderoso del mundo".

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Now let me correct a statement by Torralba, where he says that the reason that Portugal seceded was because the Count-Duke of Olivares sent the Tercios to Catalonia instead of Portugal. That's a fact, but it is the reason why the secession succeeded, not the reason why it took place.
Eso quería decir, que el hecho del desplazamiento de los Tercios a Cataluña fue decisivo, pero no la razón, lo que pasa que en inglés me salió la frase como que Portugal se puso flamenco por no ver a ningún soldado de los Tercios por las cercanías.

(Esto lo pongo en castellano porque no había manera de que me saliera la frase en inglés )
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