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Default Re: Sub nordid and Vistulian

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Originally Posted by Visigodo View Post
Both are Huzulians and to be frank I took them as Bunak's Valdaic like examples time ago as they have a similar look at some of the examples I have from Bunak but as they are not from the area where Bunak located the Valdaic type I think now that would be better to be clear about that. The pictures where taken by L. Cipriani, (Eine Rassenuntersuchung bei den Hutzulen -Nodostkarpathen-) and posted by R. Battaglia (L'EUROPA ORIENTALE, I CARATTERI SOMATICI) a chapter of RAZZE E POPOLI DELLA TERRA by Renato Biasutti. They were classified as depigmented "Baltic types".
The woman look like many Russian ladies I've seen. Do you know if it's correct to say Huzulians and Ruthenians are different names for the same people? Or are they a sub-group of Ruthenians?

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Both are quite Nordids and the man clearly Nordid for sure. The woman seems to show some kind of Cromagnid or Osteuropid? admixture.
She does seem robust. However, the same can be said of many Scandinavian Nordids. I see what you mean with the formation of her mouth and cheekbones. She is old though. People change a lot.

You know Eastern European anthropology is much more complex than Osteuropid, that is what I got when I was in Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine and Poland. I need to travel much more in those countries to understand their looks better. I have a better idea than I had before. I saw less exotic looks than I had expected. I actually saw more exotic looks (from a British or Scandinavian perspective) in Riga than Odessa or Kiev. Things are complex, I got that more southern and eastern doesn't necessarily mean more exotic. It would have been even better if I could have visited villages. I had no time for that though. One thing is clear. Eastern Europeans (especially Russians) are much fairer (at least in hair and to a lesser extent also eye colour) than west and central Europeans.

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I think so. They can be brothers.
Brother and sister? I was comparing the Trönder man to the Huzulian lady.

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I hope you have had nice holidays. I am sure you will like Minsk.
I had a good holiday, thank you. Travelling opens up eyes. I appreciate the order at home even more although I also admire the more laid-back (in a way more human) lifestyle in east. I wrote a summary of my observations at http://forum.stirpes.net/atrium/1324...rn-europe.html
I will travel to Minsk another time. Maybe next year. I know you've been there.
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